THIS SATURDAY! We're speaking out against abuse at work across the nation to call for changedignitytogether OP t1_iso0se8 wrote
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So you’re saying sexual harassment law has that effect then? Do you have data on that?
One-Coast8927 t1_iso0wdq wrote
What? Since when are we talking about sexual harassment? This things are completely different
dignitytogether OP t1_iso0z7n wrote
You’re saying a law that protects women will make employers hire fewer women.
One-Coast8927 t1_iso133w wrote
No. I'm saying that a law that protects people with mental health issues, will cause employers to hire less people that are prone to mental health issues. That's basic logic.
dignitytogether OP t1_iso162s wrote
Then my statement would also be true.
One-Coast8927 t1_iso1hre wrote
No. Sexual harassment is a result of a trasable act. Ex. I touch your butt. Mental health is a result of multiplicity of acts, factors, and events. If I say you're ugly, you may or may not get suicidal, that depends on how other aspects of your life influence my statement. Aspects that I don't know of because it's part of your private life.
dignitytogether OP t1_iso1oq2 wrote
Sexual harassment is also words.
One-Coast8927 t1_iso1xd5 wrote
Words, touches whatever, it's a trasable act.
One-Coast8927 t1_iso1yo2 wrote
You really missed the point.
One-Coast8927 t1_iso2325 wrote
Also sexual harassment is not worsen by out of work factors. While mental health is
dignitytogether OP t1_iso5ur1 wrote
This bill goes after behaviors, so it shouldn’t matter. But we can agree to disagree.
One-Coast8927 t1_isoikdt wrote
The matter persist. It's not traceable, due to the multiplicity of factors and events that affects mental health issues. With our current knowledge of social behavior you can't say with exactitude how much does work influence the mental health problem and how much is it influence by factors outside of work. If the workplace is just the last drop, will you appoint all the liability to the workplace or only 1% of the guilt? Let's say I hire a new guy. He had some underlying mental health issues that no one knows about. Then I say something that cause him to go suicidal. A prima facie is my fault, but in reality I was just the very small tiping point. How can you evaluate if I share just 1% or 100% of the fault.
dignitytogether OP t1_isoisey wrote
That’s not how the bill is designed though. It focuses on employer behavior and holds them accountable for it, regardless of health harm and just like sexual harassment law.
One-Coast8927 t1_isoj38v wrote
But the behavior is subjective. I may say or do something not cover on the bill at prima facie, that causes mental health issues on some people.
dignitytogether OP t1_isoj9cf wrote
That’s why we’ve covered the most common abuse tactics in the bill.
One-Coast8927 t1_isojfgl wrote
Even if you cover them, the common ones in the bill are still covered under harrasment laws.
dignitytogether OP t1_isojlzb wrote
That’s not true.
One-Coast8927 t1_isojb9y wrote
And is not like sexual harrasment at all. So stop comparing it to it.
dignitytogether OP t1_isojfqk wrote
It is, but I’m not going to continue this conversation is you’re not actually interested in keeping an open mind. Take care.
One-Coast8927 t1_iso0yte wrote
I love it how you bring in other issues because you can't counter my logical answer.
dignitytogether OP t1_iso11qm wrote
I’m just following your logic.
One-Coast8927 t1_iso145u wrote
No you're not
dignitytogether OP t1_iso1d2g wrote
Why the defensiveness?
One-Coast8927 t1_iso1kaj wrote
None.
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