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FIFAFanboy2023 t1_jdx6raq wrote

Still waiting on someone to tell me how 7 people with 7 cars living in 1 Triple Decker are going to be able to charge their cars.

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daviongray t1_jdy40oy wrote

Why wouldn't you be able to charge multiple cars at the same time? You can charge on a regular house outlet, install multiple lv 2 chargers, charge at work/public, use a splitter to charge multiple cars on the same lvl 2 outlet. This is a non issue.

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FIFAFanboy2023 t1_je00x76 wrote

It's 35 feet from my front door, which no one in the building uses, to the street. It is 125 feet from the garage, which no one has exclusive use to use. The driveway is 125 feet long and is only wide enough for one car, and the live-in landlord has exclusive parking except for snowstorms. The spaces in front of our building allow for 2 cars to park, but are shared with the 2 dozen or so other neighbors that live around us. There is also a sidewalk that would need to be crossed in order to charge the car.

If 7 cars were to need to be charged, how do you see that working?

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daviongray t1_je08blz wrote

Sounds like you're only thinking about the present not the future. As the demand for EVs increase landlords, workplaces etc will become more accommodating. Your building setup doesn't have to stay the same forever. I'm a landlord and installed a 240V outlet so my tenant could charge their EV faster. I got a rebate from the electric company and it's a tax write off so in the end it barely cost me anything. People probably said the same thing when we went from horses to cars without many roads. "Cars will never work, they'll get destroyed driving around." We built paved roads to accommodate cars, we will build infrastructure to accommodate EVs. Everyone doesn't need to own an EV right away, we'll get there eventually.

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FIFAFanboy2023 t1_je09726 wrote

Is the cord 125+ ft long?

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daviongray t1_je0avon wrote

You know wires can be run from one place to another, right? The EV charger doesn't have to be in the garage or on the house. It can be installed closer to where the cars are parked. Anyways, I'm going to enjoy the quiet of my EV and the fuel savings. You have a great day.

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FIFAFanboy2023 t1_je0d8ml wrote

Yeah, that's what I want to have when I live in a city where people constantly having catalytic converters stolen from their cars. A nice and not inexpensive electric charger right alongside the road sounds perfect. I'm sure they would last long.

I'm all for the electric car revolution, however I worry about the practicality and logistics of charging stations when you don't live in a single family home, and nothing you or the other person replying to me has said eases my concern.

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SeaworthinessLeft88 t1_jdxxnou wrote

Well, first of all the odds of everyone charging all 7 cars at the same exact time are fairly low. With my Ioniq 5, I don’t even charge daily. It’s more like every 2-3 days. And with a relatively low amperage charger (32A), it’s only charging for 4-5 hour increments typically.

They also make chargers that network with others for load sharing. My Juicebox 32 can be paired with other ones to ensure that the load is below a certain threshold. So if I have 2 cars and set my current limit to 32A, it will deliver 16A to each car instead of 32.

So to answer your question, you would maybe have 1 charger for each level of the triple decker. Maybe even two for each. You could have each on its own 40A 240V circuit. Or you could place multiple on the same 240V circuit with load sharing enabled.

And if you’re going to ask how a triple decker can have 3 40A 240V circuits operating at the same time, I would note that it’s not unusual for each unit to have its own service and meter, with each meter having its own panel with similar circuits such as heat pumps, electric ranges, baseboard heat, and dryers operating at the same time.

I guess you can stop waiting?

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FIFAFanboy2023 t1_je014ml wrote

I'm not worried about the electrical load, I'm talking about the compounding difficulties that a lot of people who live in 3 deckers simply in terms of parking needs.

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SeaworthinessLeft88 t1_je04qfg wrote

Are you asking how we would provide chargers for public parking on the side of streets? Because that solution already exists. You can mount L2 chargers right on utility poles. It’s fairly easy, since you have a direct line to 240V at whatever amperage you want to provide for the chargers. There has already been a trial in Melrose, in Seattle, in LA, and in Europe.

We already have the technology there, and the engineering challenges are trivial. It’s just a matter of public investment.

And if you’re instead asking how 7 EVs parked in a triple decker would charge right now, I would note that nobody is forcing anyone to buy a BEV right now. We’re at the early adoption phase, and building out charging networks like this is a goal of both federal and state governments including with funding provided from the bipartisan infrastructure law.

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