Submitted by bostonglobe t3_123nkej in massachusetts
classicrock40 t1_jdvygmu wrote
Reply to comment by SeaworthinessLeft88 in Inside the crazy, mixed-up world of electric-vehicle charger pricing by bostonglobe
good info - as someone just thinking about an EV, these articles just don't help. Tesla seems to be the Apple/iPhone of EV and none of this is going to get better without some govt intervention/regulation.
I've been looking at the Ionic. What insights can you give?
SeaworthinessLeft88 t1_jdw0z9b wrote
I have nothing but good things to say about the car. I ended up getting the RWD SE model, so it lacks some of the fancy stuff at higher trims. It handled fine in the limited amount of snow we’ve gotten this past winter, and the range increase of RWD vs AWD is something to consider. Still, it’s admittedly an expensive car even at its RWD base trim models. If you meet income requirements for the federal tax credit, it’s important to note that the I5 does not qualify for the federal tax credit due to the 2023 models being manufactured in Korea. They have plans to start manufacturing them in the US, but my understanding is that they’re at least a couple of years away from that.
Some owners of the 2022 model have reported 12V battery issues around the 1 year mark, possibly from faulty ICCUs, possibly from excessive drain from third party apps “waking” the car to harvest data (one possible source has been speculated as utilities on reduced rate programs retrieving updates from the car hundreds to thousands times a day). Hyundai has supposedly fixed the early ICCU issues and just released a patch that prevents third parties from pinging the car so much, but it remains to be seen if later models will have 12V issues at the same frequency.
Competitors would be VW’s ID.4, Tesla’s Model Y, and Ford’s Mustang Mach E. I believe all of those are also pretty well reviewed, and some (if not all) would get the federal tax rebate. If you don’t qualify for the federal tax rebate anyway due to the income cap, then the I5 is more competitive in price. All EVs do qualify for a $3500 rebate through MA’s EV-mor program (no income or manufacturing origin requirements), and I was able to get that without any issues.
Oh, and just to add some insight on superchargers: Tesla has already started rolling out the magic dock upgrade to their chargers that enable CCS charging. But the I5 has had some issues due to the higher voltage architecture (800V versus 400V of Tesla). Those issues are supposedly being patched soon by Tesla, but as of now, the I5 only charges at reduced power at the few superchargers with magic docks.
JJ2o2o t1_jdxvlxs wrote
There is a price cap on the EV-Mor program.
It was bumped up to $55K as of last November. Ioniq 5 AWD Limited trim exceeds this amount - so just make sure if you are banking on getting the rebate.
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