Carpeteria3000 t1_je7g8j9 wrote on March 29, 2023 at 11:24 PM

Reply to comment by kcast2818 in Death with dignity by Avocadoexpresss

Livin’ wild on the slippery slope over here

kcast2818 t1_je7kg32 wrote on March 29, 2023 at 11:56 PM

Slippery slope has happened on a bunch of issues. They're literally pushing assisted suicide in Canada for mental illness not just the terminally ill. Maybe you're not paying attenetion.

Carpeteria3000 t1_je7laaf wrote on March 30, 2023 at 12:02 AM

I’m literally not living in Canada, and “pushing for” something doesn’t mean it will happen. Lots of laws get “pushed for” across the country. Doesn’t automatically make them happen.

The DwD law has existed for over 20 years in Oregon and no slopes have been slid in that time. It has been legalized in several other states since then, and amazingly, the laws have held fast and far fewer terminal patients have actually taken advantage of these acts than doomsdayers projected.

kcast2818 t1_je7mvsw wrote on March 30, 2023 at 12:14 AM

They have no incentive to continue if other states have not followed in assisted suicide. Now that its gaining steam in the US expect Oregon to take the next step. Massachusetts passed gay marriage in 2004 other states followed. Now its national. Now we're discussing Trans kids. See how this works?

Carpeteria3000 t1_je7n1wv wrote on March 30, 2023 at 12:16 AM

Nope. You’re talking out of your ass and that’s a massive false equivalency. You’re really good at tossing around fallacies, though.

kcast2818 t1_je7pp5m wrote on March 30, 2023 at 12:35 AM

Yeah can't properly respond just name call and have a fit. Enjoy your echo chamber.

Carpeteria3000 t1_je7qi2z wrote on March 30, 2023 at 12:41 AM

I didn’t call you any names. I said you’re talking out of your ass, which is a common phrase for someone throwing around a bunch of nonsense.

Not biting on fallacies =/= echo chamber.

It’s a shame that you’re afraid of something that has no evidence of occurring in this country after literal decades of data and which could help a great deal of your fellow humans who are needlessly suffering while terminal diseases ravage their bodies, while their families have to sit by and watch and while incurring unnecessary medical bills.

kcast2818 t1_je7rw3g wrote on March 30, 2023 at 12:51 AM

I'm not name calling *Proceeds to say talking out of your ass* lol. You never addressed how this isn't a slippery slope. You don't want to have an actual conversation about this because it will lead to topics you don't wanna talk about. Clearly bringing up the gay marriage to trans kids pipeline was your third rail.

Talk to me when you actually want to have a conversation about this not PC nonsense for your Reddit upvotes.

Carpeteria3000 t1_je7tkb6 wrote on March 30, 2023 at 1:04 AM

Umm ok? Name calling would be me saying “You’re an idiot.” I didn’t.

You’re definitely making a slippery slope fallacy.

You’re claiming that, despite there being over 20 years of data related to the law being safely enacted and protected here in the US, that somehow we’re just going to backpedal and start expanding DwD to groups not covered under the current laws, even though you have zero evidence of that being discussed in any real or likely manner by anyone with the power to expand those laws. Your evidence so far is that in Canada (a different country) it’s being “pushed for” - pushed how? By who? How likely is it to happen? Is it on a ballot? And again, even if Canada decided to expand on it, we aren’t discussing Canadian policies. This is America, where these laws have been pretty strictly adhered to in the few states where it has been legalized.

Making the bizarre equivalent between this topic and gay/trans rights, which has literally nothing to do with this issue, is a totally illogical connection and does nothing for the supposed points you’re trying to hammer.