Submitted by Linux-Is-Best t3_10uwp73 in massachusetts
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gamefreak9199 t1_j7fxchn wrote
Horrible situation, especially for the relative who called the police thinking they'd be able to help. I hope they find peace.
Day_trading_degen t1_j7lpxpf wrote
Iknow the sons of this woman, they just lost a brother to a car accident, they infact will not be alright
AnyRound5042 t1_j7g7gsn wrote
No mention of what the weapon was (a cellphone maybe?) But they do note that she posed no danger but still they feared for their lives? Where are they finding these pathetic cowards to be cops anyways? Afraid of fucking anything and everyone
Linux-Is-Best OP t1_j7g9ixj wrote
Opinion:
I caught that too. They admit she posed no threat, but still were fearful for their lives. How does that work? Answer: It does not. It is a complete contradiction. It's "code" for, but we really wanted to shoot her, but don't want to say we wanted to shoot her.
That said, stories like these are why I try to avoid cell phones and cell phone cases that are black, silver, or any dark color when possible. My current Pixel is bright, light green. It was this or white. I doubt it would make much of a difference, if someone wants to make an excuse, they'll make an excuse. Still, it's something I fear you have to think about these days.
Day_trading_degen t1_j7lpe5r wrote
No it actually does not mean that at all, they said she posed no threat because the weapon she used was not a REAL weapon. Someone familiar with Linux, you would think you could process this logically, clearly you cannot. She came outside with a BB gun, and the cops had to make a split second decision. Important to note the BB gun had no orange tip
snerdaferda t1_j7iv4av wrote
I’m as liberal as they come and I’m calling bullshit on the fact that you have a light green pixel because you’re scared of being shot by the police. That’s just…an outrageous statement.
Linux-Is-Best OP t1_j7ix0o7 wrote
You are welcome to your opinion, of course, but I experienced years ago, pulling out a dark, unusually large wallet, and for a moment the cop mistook it for a weapon. It was a very scary experience, and I am lucky I was not shot.
That said a cellular phone is a lot bigger than a wallet. And I have no intentions of playing with fate.
Day_trading_degen t1_j7lp60e wrote
You should do some research first of all. She came out of the house with what looked to be a rifle, and even threatened to use it on officers. Note, I know the family involved, she had just lost a son in a car accident. Complete tragedy, but you should not be so judgmental of the officer, he had to make a split second decision
CustyMojo t1_j7gtnnj wrote
It was a pump action BB gun. And she threatened to shoot the cops and kill herself. This was suicide by cop.
AnyRound5042 t1_j7h6jey wrote
From what I've heard this was a mental health crisis and the police were called for a wellness check, but what showed up was an execution squad. When will the state learn that these thugs are not capable of dealing with any situation requiring a little bit of tact or nuance. This was not suicide by cop. This was a state sanctioned murder by cop
CustyMojo t1_j7h8bzx wrote
The woman went upstairs, grabbed a BB gun and said "im gonna shoot you and myself". Up until that point. It was wellness check, but quickly escalated into suicide by cop. If I go upstairs into my house during a wellness check, grab a weapon, and say I'm gonna kill you and myself. The cop is well within their rights to use force to protect themselves...don't be a retard.
AnyRound5042 t1_j7hd11m wrote
It must be so nice to live in a world where you can just kill anybody that inconveniences you without a second thought. If I ever see you in public I'll be sure to smile and wave so you can stay in your little fantasy land delusion
cika69414 t1_j7jcs2v wrote
Being threatened and having a weapon pointed at you is definitely just a regular day inconvenience. You’re a clown.
AnyRound5042 t1_j7klgoa wrote
It was a fucking bb gun dude grow up
cika69414 t1_j7kthkc wrote
Have you ever seen a BB gun? They are replicas of real guns with no orange cap. It wasn’t a fucking squirt gun she pulled on them
Day_trading_degen t1_j7lpos8 wrote
Are you fucking slow? BB guns are impossible to differentiate between what is real and what is not. When you have a weapon that resembles a gun being pointed at you, you have to make a split second decision. Go back to school, or read a book please
thomastodon01027 t1_j7gevpg wrote
This could be a completely legitimate and appropriate use of force, but I’m interested if we ever hear more about it. This news story looks like they basically reprinted the press release from the police with zero additional investigation. That might be fine, but in a lot of high-profile police killings in recent years, the original press releases have a lot of inaccurate or omitted information. At the minimum, I would be really interested to know what the weapon in question was.
somegridplayer t1_j7fbyvg wrote
Norton is gonna be pissed Easton got to shoot someone.
sadgringopapi t1_j7f27a3 wrote
Killed a woman while performing a wellness check, fucking pigs
Cheap_Coffee t1_j7fdlwe wrote
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sadgringopapi t1_j7fdpfs wrote
thank you, smell the bacon
Cheap_Coffee t1_j7fmnvf wrote
Sadly, I'm out of bacon this morning. I'll have to make do with sausage.
If your knee continues to jerk like that you should consult a doctor. It might be a sign of a serious neurological condition.
Day_trading_degen t1_j7lptg6 wrote
She aimed a BB gun at cops which resembled a real gun. You gnna just let someone aim a gun at your face or are u gnna defend your self? Get help buddy
sadgringopapi t1_j7lr6ll wrote
They obviously knew they were dealing with someone mentally ill, maybe you didn't realize being a cop is a dangerous job. Sometimes your life is danger, comes with the fucking territory, not murdering someone who's concerned family brought the police there to begin with.
Day_trading_degen t1_j7luiov wrote
Okay so how would you have reacted? If someone points what appears to be a gun at you (while you yourself are armed) are you just going to allow that weapon to be pointed at you? Or will you eliminate the threat? You would Prbbly defend your self. If you believe that you wouldn’t have shot someone aiming a weapon at you, then you have NO survival instincts. You should actually be sympathetic to the officer, but your too close minded to think that way. That cop made a split second decision that ANY human being would make (assuming they have survival instincts). Seriously asking, how old are you?
Important to note. Iknow the family, I know this woman who was killed. It’s horrible, it makes me sick and I am not even ready to reach out to the family to wish them my condolences. Even though I was personally effected, I still have the brain capacity to understand that the cop did what ANY person would do. It’s embarrassing for you as a person to think otherwise
sadgringopapi t1_j7lwnvm wrote
Why would you wish condolences? Thats insulting considering your argument, this person was mentally ill. Police are meant to be trained to deal with these situations, they aren't random people off the streets. The situation did not need to end this way.
Day_trading_degen t1_j7ly4wr wrote
Because regardless of if I believe the shooting was justified ( which it was) I still think it’s a tragedy. Like I said, Iknow the family. More than I am willing to say. But I just don’t blame the police. People expect WAY too many things from the police. How else would the police have responded? Barricading the house? It’s impossible to say, but if you aim what appears to be a gun at police, your gonna die. If you aimed a gun at ANYBODY who is armed, your gonna die. It’s as simple as that. The real blame is on the state/federal government, for not providing the appropriate resources to people struggling with mental health.additionally, police ARE NOT trained extensively in this field. The only training that is sufficient to deal with this is to earn a PHD in psychology (still not enough)
sadgringopapi t1_j7m5mhw wrote
I hope you never have a family member with mental illness.
Day_trading_degen t1_j7msttn wrote
I do lol. But if you were a police officer, how would you have approached the situation?
Hoosac_Love t1_j7f8fae wrote
Suicide by cop