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bobmcrobber t1_j9mj45i wrote

It might have to do with the fact that our campgrounds are kept really well compared to the ones in other states. Also, the ones on the cape are usually more expensive due to them being extremely popular

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tapakip t1_j9p3io4 wrote

Which ones aren't kept as well? Genuinely curious. I've stayed at some out of state ones in the past and all have been on par with our own.

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bobmcrobber t1_j9p4vsj wrote

Rhode island and Connecticut. Vermont is kinda a mixed bag

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tapakip t1_j9p5dnu wrote

Ahh, good to know. NY around Lake George has been good for us, as has the appalachian trail locations, and then basically any site headed across the country to the west coast, since there's a lot of room out there.

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Figwit_ OP t1_j9mwmjw wrote

I doubt it has anything to do with how well the campgrounds are kept. Let's say New Hampshire were to triple the prices for non-residents at their state parks. Everyone in Mass would cry bloody murder about it.

Edit- downvote all you want my friends, you know it's true.

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deadliftothersup t1_j9mxqe1 wrote

Nah, Baxter State park in Maine only has entry fees for out of state residents and is free for residents so technically infinitely higher. I don't think people would flip out since you don't really hear anyone flip out about Baxter.

Despite tourism not being our main economy, MA has more total tourist visiting than either NH or ME each year. They don't really need to lure out of state folks into the campgrounds for the economy.

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Figwit_ OP t1_j9mzl0e wrote

People aren't flipping out about 1 park in the deep backwoods of Maine and so you think people wouldn't be upset about the whole state of NH tripling the camping rates? Hmm ok.

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somegridplayer t1_j9o9foa wrote

You just called Baxter "one park in the deep backwoods of Maine"

Take the L and move on dude.

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pccb123 t1_j9oeshp wrote

"One park in the deep backwoods of Maine" to describe one of the most amazing pieces of perserved lands we've got hurt my soul lol

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somegridplayer t1_j9oex5v wrote

He's gonna call Cape Cod National Seashore "just a small beach" next. I guarantee it.

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deadliftothersup t1_j9nh1c8 wrote

It's the terminus of the AT and a pretty important state park for out of staters because of that, but ultimately it's just an example where no one is really complaining even about that park specifically.

Local and out of state/town differential rates can be found in a lot of things beyond camping sites. If your issue is the exact differential in this case rather than the concept than what is your ideal ratio?

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TecumsehSherman t1_j9ok1ej wrote

I would pay money for the whole state of New Hampshire to pack up and move to Utah.

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Figwit_ OP t1_j9oljql wrote

I think the majority of your neighbors in Mass disagree. Folks from Mass can't seem to get out of your state fast enough every Friday afternoon.

That's fine though, we just need a $50 toll on 93 coming into NH and we can call it even.

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TecumsehSherman t1_j9oma40 wrote

Remember when you guys created a crazy libertarian community that drowned in trash and got attacked by bears?

Or when you were asked with coming up with your most distinguishing feature as a State to put on the New Hampshire quarter, and all you could come up with a rock that kind of looked like a face from just the right angle. And then it promptly collapsed! That was amazing.

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Figwit_ OP t1_j9p8yh5 wrote

Yeah, I actually agree with both those things being stupid and crazy. Seriously though, who the fuck cares about a rock that sort of looks like a dudes head? And it's everywhere!

Edit: we should be able to criticize ourselves and where we live without getting too defensive. NH has some fucked up policies and people up here, no doubt. Mass does some wacky shit sometimes, too. Maybe not quite as wacky as NH, but wacky still.

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BenEsq t1_j9oazjb wrote

Part of our fee as MA residents is paid by our taxes. Ypu dont pay MA taxes, so you should pay more. I would expect to pay more if I went to a campground out of state.

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Figwit_ OP t1_j9od6qn wrote

As would I. I'm not upset about paying more per se. I'm upset that Mass charges about 3X more for out of state residents. I think it's a little bit crazy that so many MA residents enjoy the state park systems of other nearby states but then turn around and charge crazy prices for others to go there.

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Figwit_ OP t1_j9pgm9u wrote

Thanks for this helpful contribution

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Figwit_ OP t1_j9q0f4i wrote

What specifically am I generalizing about? I'm saying it's kind of a bummer for MA to charge more to out of staters while people from MA enjoy the relatively low prices in the states that surround MA.

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Figwit_ OP t1_j9qrpdk wrote

Am I wrong? So you're saying that all those thousands of MA residents that come up here to camp would be perfectly fine with paying 3X what they're currently paying to camp at state parks in NH?

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biddily t1_j9njbnu wrote

so, MA use to have 'camp hosts'. Someone would camp for free and in return they would be responsible for cleaning the nearby bathroom everyday. It means some bathrooms were cleaner than others, but it worked and someone camped for free.

During covid they stopped using hosts. Things went shitballs for 2 years. for one, available campsites got cut in half, and for two they hired outside cleaners to clean all the bathrooms.

Since then, while all the sites have opened back up, they havent gone back to using host campers. they are continuing to have cleaners clean the facilities.

As far as I'm aware the other states are still using host campers.

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Icy-Neck-2422 t1_j9o2glh wrote

Last spring NH had to lock the gates at one state park after people from Lowell and Lawrence trashed the place.

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