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nasty_brutish_longer t1_j5168fi wrote

Reply to comment by anubis2051 in Holland Tunnel Traffic Study Review by moobycow

No one is proposing pulling a Leonia. The likeliest action would be traffic calming like lane-width reduction and sidewalk bulbouts on city-owned streets. Tunnel traffic will still filter through the city, but at lower speed, reducing the effectiveness of the shortcut.

It's the best we can do, and it's why the turnpike widening would be a disaster for us.

There's also the oft-bandied idea of a surcharge for anyone who enters the tunnel within an hour of exiting 14 b or c. That won't happen, of course, because the Turnpike authority wants cars to filter through here. We're a traffic repository to them.

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anubis2051 t1_j51dksz wrote

> There's also the oft-bandied idea of a surcharge for anyone who enters the tunnel within an hour of exiting 14 b or c. That won't happen, of course, because the Turnpike authority wants cars to filter through here. We're a traffic repository to them.

I don't love this because, hypothetically, I swing by and pick up a friend in JC, then I get hit with a surcharge? Or need to stop and get something at home and head in to work?

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nasty_brutish_longer t1_j51fjue wrote

I don't love it because, let's face it, enough people would be willing to pay the charge to clog our streets anyway. And they'll feel entitled to a shorter trip, at greater risk to anyone using a crosswalk.

But I can comfortably guarantee we'll never see it enacted. The NJTA likes our overflow capacity too much to let that happen. We're not a city to them, we're a customer queuing space.

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