Submitted by Morrigan-27 t3_zl0pi8 in jerseycity
Happyjee t1_j03oe7q wrote
The fact so many people are interacting on “Tips” topic just shows how out of control the tipping is after covid. When did we start tipping 20% for coffee or for takeouts. There needs to be something done where employer pays more and we patrons also need to pay more but it’s a fixed amount and we know it before hand.
DPedia t1_j055lqk wrote
And percentage based tips for delivery. Delivery was always like, a couple bucks. Maybe more if it was raining or a huge order. 20% on delivery on top of all the wild fees is a little crazy to me. They’re not coming inside and serving me the food, they’re dropping off a bag of cold overpriced shit.
Obligatory disclaimer that I’m a habitual good tipper in restaurants, even for “bad service.” But the takeout and delivery tip expectations are out of control these days.
DifficultyNext7666 t1_j06k524 wrote
Well you don't tip on fees or taxes. I agree it's out of control but I also don't think people know the rules
DPedia t1_j0780un wrote
I know that (although in restaurants I disregard that and tip 20% on the total), but are we sure delivery apps and point-of-sale terminals default to the total without those fees? They may, but I doubt it.
DifficultyNext7666 t1_j07a9yv wrote
Thats a good point, i dont actually know what the answer is there.
I would agree they probably dont tip on the total. Fuck some restaurants i notice the 20% suggestion number at the bottom includes tax, credit card fee, and "covid charge
HElGHTS t1_j08fs2o wrote
I just tried GrubHub and the "Driver Tip" defaults to 20% which gets calculated as 3.27 for my order having a subtotal of 13.95, waived delivery fee due to Amazon prime integration, 1.40 service fee, and 1.01 tax.
When adding up 13.95+1.40+1.01, and then taking 20%, it comes to 3.27
Totally bogus. Well, reasonable at this subtotal, but not at higher subtotals... Because using a percentage is nonsensical in the first place.
the_running_stache t1_j05b0zt wrote
And those Revel and equivalent swipe your card systems are notorious at that.
You grabbed coffee, ok. Oh, and that muffin from below the counter in the glass cabinet that opens only on the cashier side.
The cashier now turns the screen to you and your options are 20%, 25%, 30%, or Other.
The lowest I have seen at such places is still 18%. That’s insane for just grab-and-go-type of places; what service is being provided? Of course I cannot go behind the counter, open the glass door and pick that muffin since I don’t work there…
Of course, I go with Other and might leave a dollar tip or not even that. But their audacity to even ask for such tips and guilt you into thinking that you owe them for grabbing a muffin from under the counter is just appalling.
Happyjee t1_j05byh8 wrote
A latte used to cost $3-4 few years back now it’s $6 and up. You then add the demand for increased tipping like 18% from the 0 to 10% before and you quickly realize how expensive everything has become. Tipping IMO is going to break soon as it’s a hypocritical practice, those who take tips usually do not give the same tips when the tables are turned. To each their own if you can tip 20 or 25% good for you but don’t force tips.. it’s always supposed to be optional.
Jahooodie t1_j08abne wrote
I got a dirty chai from Gregory's the other week, a large is somehow over $7.50 and the default selected tip in the POS was 20%. I felt inflation shocked shook
Ilanaspax t1_j07g1g8 wrote
I don’t understand why customers think the barista is responsible for setting up the register or is pressuring you to tip? They have to show you the tip screen in order for you to approve the purchase. If I’m getting something small but still want to tip I just hit other and put in the amount I want to tip or don’t tip anything. I’ve never gotten attitude for this.
Honestly sounds like some of you are projecting a lot onto the barista just for doing their job - no one is expecting you to tip on a muffin they’re just trying to complete the purchase on the register.
HElGHTS t1_j08gn03 wrote
The comment you replied to is complaining about whoever implemented the system configuration, not the barista. It literally says "systems are notorious" which probably means a combination of the owner and the system designer pushing bad defaults.
Ilanaspax t1_j09mqa1 wrote
Did you miss this part?:
Of course, I go with Other and might leave a dollar tip or not even that. But their audacity to even ask for such tips and guilt you into thinking that you owe them for grabbing a muffin from under the counter is just appalling.
[deleted] t1_j0a4b0p wrote
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HElGHTS t1_j0a4t1z wrote
I believe that the pronoun "their" in the sentence you just quoted refers to the person who configured the system, not the barista. The barista isn't asking for a tip. Whoever configured the system is asking the customer to tip the barista.
Ilanaspax t1_j0cit3o wrote
One more time for the slow learners desperate to explain a comment they didn’t even write:
and guilt you into thinking that you owe them for grabbing a muffin from under the counter is just appalling.
HElGHTS t1_j0czk1p wrote
The problem here is the damn pronouns. Let me clarify by removing the pronouns:
The person who configured the system/register is guilting the customer into thinking that the customer owes the barista for grabbing a muffin.
Ilanaspax t1_j0da30d wrote
Even if that is the case (it isn’t because the tips wouldn’t be going to the owner or whoever set up the system so idk why they would care) in either situation no one is “guilting” the customer - the cashier is just trying to complete the purchase and ring you up. 90% of the time I make a small purchase the barista seems embarrassed to have to swivel a tip screen for a small hot coffee because they also know it’s ridiculous to expect a tip but it’s required to close out the purchase.
If you’re buying something more complicated like multiple lattes or made to order food yes they probably expect a tip because you should be tipping atleast a buck or two in that scenario. It’s 100% projection that the barista/business is guilting you into tipping - if you feel guilty that’s on you.
HElGHTS t1_j0dd75h wrote
Seems equivalent to the mindset that when people are made upset by someone with malicious intent, it's on the recipient, who should just not feel upset. In situations that warrant it, we call this victim blaming. Obviously in this analogous situation "victim" is not an appropriate word for the customer whatsoever, but the overall blame follows the same directionality.
Ilanaspax t1_j0e246z wrote
You’re being victimized by the tip screen? Good lord.
Ilanaspax t1_j05457v wrote
For the most part it’s showing how insanely cheap some people are.
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