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possums101 t1_ivhgsw3 wrote

I’m sorry to be the one to tell you this but you’re gonna have to cope with this minor inconvenience so people don’t get hit by cars and die.

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njmids OP t1_ivhyty2 wrote

Do you have any actual data that it reduces fatalities? Most people get hit by turning cars and light timing does nothing to protect pedestrians in crosswalks.

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possums101 t1_ivi09j3 wrote

As I sit on my couch eating dinner watching football no I do not. NPR did a story on how Hoboken was able to achieve no pedestrian deaths in 4 years and changing the way traffic signals operated was part of that. I hate driving through Hoboken. It sucks. But it sucks for a good reason.

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rbastid t1_ivipers wrote

That article leaves out that Hoboken had 1 traffic death a year for the previous 3 years before this was implemented, and 0 deaths in 2014, which means what they enacted didn't actually do anything, as the years 2017, 2016 and 2015 were statistical blips.

It's like if Hoboken put out huge statues to scare away Lions, and then claimed the statues worked.

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njmids OP t1_ivi1l66 wrote

I support the things the article mentioned, daylighting and leading pedestrian intervals. Timing lights so you stop on every block is not the solution. Driving in NYC is way more efficient and they have reduced fatalities significantly.

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JCwhatimsayin t1_ivi2byf wrote

NYC recently lowered the speed limit city wide to 25mph and rolled out 2000 speed cameras.

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njmids OP t1_ivi2g75 wrote

Even that would be better than stopping at every single light.

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