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HappyArtichoke7729 t1_ixm5xmu wrote

Reply to comment by [deleted] in Algorithmic rent setting service under investigation by DOJ for collusion with landlords by JCwhatimsayin

> and they have no control

This is a lie. Their company can choose to use any price they want. They CHOOSE to use this price. They have complete control. As usual, when a company says they "can't" do something because "it's policy", it's a lie. They can do whatever they want unless it's illegal.

u/Positive_Debate7048 You're not talking to a guy, you're talking to a company, and that dude is just their paid mouthpiece. The company can do whatever it wants. Including lie to you and tell you that they "can't" change the price. That is a lie. Unless it's illegal, they CAN change the price, but they simply don't want to.

If what you said was true, then a doctor's office couldn't function because when you call and talk to a receptionist, that person isn't a medical doctor and so they can't help with your medical problems.

A business is made up of lots of folks, and which representative it's CHOOSING to speak through is simply an internal detail that shouldn't matter to you. You are still speaking to the business.

Businesses lie about these things, because SUCKERS BELIEVE IT. And then they pay more money. And so OBVIOUSLY businesses will continue lying more and more and more, because lying MAKES MONEY.

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NoSwordfish1667 t1_ixmafs2 wrote

Actually I think they meant the actual leasing office has no control because it’s corporate that is overruling them. It’s above the leasing office pay-grade to deviate from what the pricing model (that’s running from the corporate office) is telling them.

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HappyArtichoke7729 t1_ixmisvw wrote

You're dealing with the corporation. If they send a representative to talk to you, that can't do anything, that's their own problem.

That's like complaining to your boss that you can't fill out this form, because you decided to grab a chopstick instead of a pencil.

Doesn't matter if the leasing office can or can't, they are simply a paid mouthpiece of the corporation, who absolutely can.

These lies are designed to make you stop asking questions and just pay more. And these lies WORK WELL. Because people believe them.

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pixel_of_moral_decay t1_ixoigpc wrote

They don't have control either.

The contracts behind the loans that the building was built with dictate how pricing is set. There's lots of fine print in those agreements to protect the investors.

A company can't just negate those contracts and set prices how they want. They agreed to run that building financially in very explicit terms before they broke ground.

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HappyArtichoke7729 t1_ixmig4m wrote

If the representative of the company that you happen to be speaking to, doesn't have access to or control over something, that's not your problem, it's an internal detail of how the company runs itself.

People tend to view their interaction with "the person" in front of them. You're interacting with a corporation, and this person is their paid mouthpiece. And this corporation can do whatever it wants to.

"I can't because" and "because policy" are lies, designed to make you stop inquiring, and just pay more money right now. And, THEY WORK WELL. Because people forget what I just said above.

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Jahooodie t1_ixmoxqu wrote

I mean they do have a point, and the whole reason of this thread is that the DOJ is smelling a conspiracy to raise prices laundered through the wash of a third party consultant algorithm that everyone happens to use to set similar skyrocketing prices. But also yes haggling at fast food vibes

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HappyArtichoke7729 t1_ixmqm16 wrote

Your intuition is off this time.

The lies work because a lot of folks, probably including you, just believe them and immediately pay more money when they're spoken. Why wouldn't the company lie if they get more money?

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HappyArtichoke7729 t1_ixmvziv wrote

> Is the leasing agent who’s a chill guy and is evaluated on occupancy part of the grand conspiracy to min max you and lying to you blind when he could just give half off rent? No.

Here you go again talking about people.

I'm not going to lunch with this person after work. When they're working, they are a representative of the company, and I am talking to THE COMPANY. I am not talking to them as an individual, this is a business discussion. The COMPANY either will or won't do something, but it has nothing to do with THE MEATBAG that's delivering the news to me.

You seem too thick-skulled to comprehend this.

You intuition is off again, in thinking I don't understand where the collusion comes from.

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