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restricteddata t1_isflsqe wrote

It. Doesn't. Matter. Who. Caused. The. Accident.

The crime is Hit and Run. If she didn't do that, then the cause of the accident would matter. But she did, so it doesn't.

I wonder who you think my "group" is. I'm a progressive/liberal Democrat who generally supports Fullop and the rest of his slate. But I absolutely have a distaste for politicians who think they are "above the law" (which DeGise clearly does, as is evidenced by all of the other shady shit that came out after this debacle), and I have a deep distaste for cynical corruption (like nepotistic party politics) both because it is gross and because it decreases confidence in electoral democracy, which is deeply dangerous, especially at this moment. Everything she has done since the accident has said, loudly and clearly, that she is a piece of shit who should not be in power. The fact that nearly the entire city council and the mayor are willing to look the other way on this — because of the aforementioned Hudson County party machine politics — makes me sick of the whole bunch, and makes me fear that it gives an angle for other piece of shit politicians from the other party to get a foothold and push terrible policies. I also don't want someone in power who can't be held accountable because her daddy is an important person. I want my politicians accountable, sorry. I know, a really, truly radical idea, ain't it?

So yeah. I care about this. I also care because I have some bare standards for decency for politicians, and running someone over and not stopping to check if they are OK violates that. My uncle and aunt were victims of a hit and run years ago, and were crippled by it. It does not matter one bit to me whether they were at fault. What matters is that some asshole left them there to die. There's no excuse for it.

I wouldn't trust someone like that to watch my dog, much less have a voice in running my city. And separate from that, the corruption of it drags the entire city down. She has to go. I don't give a shit about someone on a bike running a red light. That's a thing that endangers primarily himself. What she did is anti-social. There's a huge difference.

If you can't see that, you're either her father, or a moron. I'm sorry.

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aa043 t1_isi87lp wrote

>Running a red light on a bike is a minor crime.

Unrelated to DeGise, thus a moron I must be.

Unfortunately I have great difficulty with use of 'victim' for the party that was entirely responsible for causing an incident.

I believe anything, including bikes, running red lights is dangerous to anyone they collide with as well as to themselves in such situations.

Trying to bring down some local politicians, you are supporting dangerous safety violations.

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