Ilanaspax t1_irikd8u wrote on October 8, 2022 at 1:50 PM

Reply to comment by mooseLimbsCatLicks in More good news for JSQ! by Historical_Times_29

And yet your solution is to bring in charter schools that serve NO special needs students and continue to pull much needed funding from public education and make the existing problem worse?

Your issue is with JC but you’re so emotional you’re talking out of your ass and acting like dismantling public schools is the solution. This is exactly how it works when social services are preyed upon by corporations for profit - do whatever they can to make it so bad it becomes a privatized for-profit service and your just the kind of shmuck to lap it up. There are active lobbyists making this happen with political ties - you’re just eating it up.

mooseLimbsCatLicks t1_irisrb9 wrote on October 8, 2022 at 3:06 PM

The kids in this school will be JC kids getting a JC public school education.

Our school system is lacking the actual infrastructure of school buildings. This new physical school addresses a critical infrastructure need, and will reduce overcrowding in the schools.

The public funding the school will use is an appropriate use of public school funds since its a JC public school.

The only thing you mentioned that is a downside is possible lack of IEP services, which you're not even sure about. But even if there is no IEP or special ed services, it is not a loss of services to the entire district, as this is a new school. And here is from their website anyway , seems like they will have some services"My child has an IEP. Will this school be a good fit for them?
Kindle Education is committed to serving all students, including those with special needs and learning differences. Our emphasis on personalized learning and low adult to student ratio may make us a good fit for students who experience challenges in a traditional classroom setting. If you have more specific questions about the services we provide or about your child’s specific needs, we recommend that you reach out to us using the contact information below so that we can answer your questions."

Yea I am emotional about the schools here. There was a lot of damage done that did not need to occur. A lot of my patients got screwed due to stupid, fearful and selfish decisions. I myself can pay for the privilege of a good education for my kids. I can pay for a private school that actually opened and let the kids in to school. Status quo of JC public schools will not provide a great education to majority of kids in JC. Whats the fix? Keep doing the same shit? This school will likely provide a good education to the kids who are enrolled in it. Thats why I support it.

I am not at all convinced that this is a black and white issue. Charter schools BAD! is not helpful when its pretending that JCBOE good! I am for increasing the educational attainment of the kids of JC, whether or not that involves the maintenance of current school governance, school administration structure , political structure etc. I am not anti union or pro privatization, but the current setup does not meet the needs of JC. The state could take over, I would be happy. A completely new school board I would be happy. Mayoral control of school board, I would be happy. JC needs better outcomes and a mix of charter and non charter schools seems like a good idea to me. We already have charters and they seem to generally have better outcomes.

I dont know what your plan is to improve outcomes, besides complaining about every new school being constructed. I think neither one of us is directly involved in making these decisions, so our argument is moot... but yea I think continued experimentation is warranted in JC.

Ilanaspax t1_irixl9l wrote on October 8, 2022 at 3:47 PM

Another valueless comment. I’m not against new schools being built I’m against charter schools replacing public schools that serve all students which is what this leads to. Do some research on how charter schools operate and why they hire lobbyists. Or how they swept in after hurricane Katrina and destroyed the LA public school system there. It’s a concentrated effort to dismantle public Ed for corporate profit and you’re eating it up.

A corporation has even less oversight than a public school so this is a bad solution if that’s your issue.

If school infrastructure is the issue maybe look at what we spend money on in this city and all the handouts developers get while they “make the city better”. How much money was that Rook the JCPD bought? How much was the pedestrian plaza that took years to build and is already getting torn up?