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OtherBarry3 t1_j9bnxsl wrote

Yeah I was going to say the same thing. I cross 12th/14th most weekdays so I purposely cross on the side where cars stop (so in your example the west side of Grove St when crossing 12th St).

Even then it's not perfect, on rush hour days when NJ drivers can't figure out how to stop their car behind the light pedestrians still end up playing real life frogger just to cross. In those cases I just walk in the middle of the street & try to keep myself visible in the sea of traffic. Usually the north/south bound cars can't move much anyway since they're being blocked by other cars.

The other thing I do is always cross in front of cars, never behind them. Better chance that drivers at least see you in front of them. Too many idiots will randomly start backing up when they stopped their car past the light & don't look for pedestrians behind them.

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