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pixel_of_moral_decay t1_ja5a3ui wrote

Reply to comment by Nope- in Accessibility lifts at the grove street path are absurdly bad by FoamythePuppy

Not really. You’re largely making that up.

There’s not many options on what you can install. Each elevator manufacturer only offers a few outdoor public spaces elevators. Only one or two will meet the spec for that space. And ADA is specific in terms of everything needed for compliance with any elevator.

Most of the options are things like floor color, cab lighting, if you want a screen to show ads etc.

Oh and there’s like 3 or 4 companies in North America that do elevators now. All the brands are basically owned by the same folks.

They basically just rubber stamped it and took the lowest bid, which was likely only the lowest by a couple thousand dollars.

There’s no real choice in this crap beyond a few design elements that bolt into place.

And yes, new elevators are notably slower than old ones. You can thank new laws in a bunch of states and lawsuits forcing them to slow down public space elevators for accessibility purposes Door times are slower, even movement was slowed since it impacts and disorients some people with inner ear issues if it moves to fast… but those type of people OP gives 0 shits about (i actually know someone with this affliction).

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Nope- t1_ja861o2 wrote

I don't know about that...why is it like the worst new elevator in North America then? Also Port Authority's elevator game seems fine in WTC and Harrison where they actually care. They spent 7 and a half years trying to fight it, and it's basically an open secret that they did the shoddiest job possible. Even that 3 year deadline to build it that they promised wasn't met, and Fulop had to publicly call out that there are literally entire high rises that were being built faster than this elevator.

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pixel_of_moral_decay t1_ja872w3 wrote

Then find the places where they cut corners. Actual documentation vs conspiracy theory crap. I know you won’t (because it doesn’t exist), but if your claims were real you would have.

That’s not how elevators work. There’s a handful of models, you collect a few bids since each vendor has 1-2 and pick your floor color. That’s really all there is to it. You have more choices in iPhones than elevators.

These aren’t custom implementations. That’s not a thing. There’s no corners to cut outside of some decorative trim pieces and flooring material. You get what’s offered. Then the city inspects and approves it once installed.

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Nope- t1_ja87dmr wrote

Uhh, how about having to hold the button down to go up and down? Where is the conspiracy in that, you can go and literally try it out right now. Is there a single other elevator you've ever used that requires that? It is absolutely absurd to try to convince people to believe that is considered "standard" functionality anywhere in the modern world. Who knows if it's a cut corner, maybe it even cost them EXTRA to spite us.

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