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tubezninja t1_j25r4go wrote

Reply to comment by brizzodaizzo in Does apple do that ? by isahilkumar

  1. You can’t always believe what law enforcement states publicly. It could be a ruse to make potential suspects nervous. It could also be the person putting out that info is misinformed about how the data was obtained.
  2. The device could have had an easy to guess passcode. Or the iOS version was out of date and a zero-day exploit was used to get in. In which case it’s unlikely Apple was the one doing the unlocking (see #1).
  3. Apple CAN access iCloud data backups and provide that to law enforcement if they follow legal procedures (unless Advanced data protection is activated… and that feature isn’t even available yet in india where OP is based). iCloud backups can contain photos, documents, data that apps have stored, e-mails, and copies of text messages.
  4. Some info, like broad location data, call logs and (possibly) any cached, non-iMessage SMS texts, can be obtained by the cellular network provider, and Apple has no say in that (again, see #1)

My question: I don’t know anything about this case, but, unless the victim’s mother and sister are also missing, why didn’t they just get copies of those chats and logs from the mother and sister’s phones?

Edit: she committed suicide, and the mother apparently claims her co-star on the show she was working on aided in the suicide. Which only further reinforces my question here. It seems like the police claim to have broken into an iPhone to obtain data they could’ve more easily gotten elsewhere, which seems awful fishy.

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brizzodaizzo t1_j25rnr8 wrote

All good replies here👍🏻. But the article did technically state that Apple officials “unlocked her phone”. Mentioned nothing about handing over iCloud data. These are two different things in their entirety.

You raise some valid points. But in either case, doesn’t this put Apple Inc. in a predicament that somebody from Apple corporate would need to come out and clarify some things?

This probably has a lot of security analysts around the world, saying, “wait, hold on a minute.!”

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tubezninja t1_j25utlj wrote

Whether Apple needs to say anything depends on who you want to believe. Who here is more credible: A multi billion dollar company who had the FBI sue them to get into an iPhone owned by domestic terrorists and they still told the FBI to go pound sand, or a police department on another continent with unknown technical skill who has an agenda on account of being extremely pressured by the public to turn up some leads on the death of a famous actress, when they could’ve more easily pulled that data from other sources?

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