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Zengoyyc t1_izgwl5e wrote

A collapse of sorts could be underway for certain countries, and is happening for some others. Civilizations do fall, its just how that looks has changed.

Look at any country seeing over 50% inflation.

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Em_isme t1_izi6vdv wrote

I agree in principle but I think you should make a distinction between countries and civilizations.

The differences between the two are way less marked than they were 3000 years ago.

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