Rememberthat1 t1_izgurh1 wrote on December 9, 2022 at 12:29 AM

Reply to comment by Rememberthat1 in Conflict in Central Europe leading to Bronze Age Collapse by Gideonn1021

Yes it fu ked everything during that time, a millennial(s?) of relation, trading, economy between very distanced culture. But the biggest problem is we do not have direct written knowledge/artefacts of bronze age central-northern europe, exept that there were a lot of trade routes for amber and other goods. It leads to think that maybe they were good relations between europe up-north and aegean regions. Again there's no artifact proving that they were smelting iron during that time (central-northen europeans)

Gideonn1021 OP t1_izh0f32 wrote on December 9, 2022 at 1:13 AM

But were there large civilizations in Europe (Central-North) at the time or was it mainly still comprised of tribes and smaller civilizations?

Rememberthat1 t1_izh3biy wrote on December 9, 2022 at 1:36 AM

I tend to think that they were "large" civilizations in central-northern europe too. I'm sorry I can't give the source right now but they were some archeologists who found in northern germany a kind of battleground that happened in the early bronze age with a lot of corpses indicating a battle of thousands of men If I recall correctly. We know that they got a lot of amber that greeks really liked. Again I cannot tell the source right now but I remember that scholars found an ancient neolithic city in the balkans, I think they estimated the city with approx 5000-10 000 souls ( I mean real archeological papers not ancient origins lol). And it leads to the environment, aegean had stones, egypt sand, mesopotamian canals and northern-central european had big big forest. So any colossal structure ( in my oponion) would be more related with woodwork. I don't see why a culture in relation with early greeks and passing knowledge wouldnt have build a big city and temples with all the ressources they got in wood and "money" made with trading.

Gideonn1021 OP t1_izhef62 wrote on December 9, 2022 at 3:03 AM

I imagine much like the Romans with Britain, regions that far away are so different and hard to keep relations with in the same manner, say the Mycenaeans towards the German people. I could definitely see relations with the Balkans though. Something that just came to me is if the Germans had relations with these bronze age civilizations, wouldn't it be much more probable that classical Greece and Rome would have had easier access to the region instead of an area isolated from major civilizations at the time? Just food for thought I don't really know