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BobWentToMars t1_iw6rzw9 wrote
Reply to comment by MarsupialKing in Tracks Of Ancient Human Found In Spain Are 300k Years Old by Several_Cabinet_9725
I work in the field, basically where you want to draw the line is very variable depending on which academic groups you work with and what is classified as human comes down more to a discussion of behaviour than biology or genus.
Some people here say anything homo is human. But there are not many who would think of habilis and naledi as human. The Hobbit (can't be bothered spelling out the whole name) is often a more grey area. Denisovan, Neanderthal and Sapien are generally pretty safe to be considered as human, especially as we know we have genetic transgressions with them (i.e we fucked and made kids who also made kids). And atleast from a Neanderthal and Sapien stand point, much after the archaeological material contains evidence of behavioural traits we would say are human (Denisovan is harder as archaeology we think is denisovan probably shows the same, but we aren't sure the archaeology is denisovan linked).
Anyway big debate but short hand- most homo species of the middle Pleistocene onwards you can get away with calling Human with some major asterixs here and there.
MarsupialKing t1_iw70uu6 wrote
Gotcha. I'm somewhat involved in the biology field so it seems a bit like the debate of what exactly constitutes a species amongst animals. Grizzly bears and polar bears create fertile offspring but are clearly different animals, being the easiest example. Thanks for the info. Early humans is one of the most interesting fields of study to me, I just can't handle all the mystery and questions we will never have answers to!
xstoopkidx t1_iw7f1yt wrote
Didn’t think growler bears were fertile?
Rangifar t1_iw8di40 wrote
I am pretty sure I heard the biologists here in the NWT talking about how they had genetic evidence that there were multiple generations of growlars.
MarsupialKing t1_iw8rr39 wrote
My understanding is that they are. Quick Google search says so but I haven't Dove into any scientific journals on the topic
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