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jezreelite t1_iw9kla4 wrote

Reply to comment by No-Free-Lunche in Simple/Short/Silly History Questions Saturday! by AutoModerator

Southern Italy and Sicily after the dissolution of the kingdom of the Two Sicilies is pretty close. The Sicilian Mafia, Neapolitan Camorra, and Calabrian 'Ndrangheta existed before 1860, but they came into their own in a big way after that point. Yet, even so, they never quite replaced government, nor fully managed to make themselves part of it.

Even closer to what you describe, though, would be Russia after the collapse of the Soviet Union.

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No-Free-Lunche t1_iwbbmn0 wrote

Maybe the closest would be N. Korea. Russia isn't really an example for anything.

I was unfamiliar with the Italian example but it's a lot less interesting to discuss a undeveloped 19th cen. state.

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