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ItsAlwaysSmokyInReno t1_iurvqjk wrote

Reply to comment by Atilim87 in When it comes to Cuba's military victory at the Bay of Pigs, does Che Guevara deserve any credit or should it be assigned exclusively to Castro's leadership? by Anglicanpolitics123

It always true. Vietnamese soldiers were seen as liberators by the Khmer peoples when the Khmer Rouge was deposed by them and a puppet state was put in their place. But you’ll tend to side with anyone who wants to fight the guys genociding your family

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Raging-Fuhry t1_iusnmha wrote

But Vietnam was fighting a defensive war, they didn't need it as justification.

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24111 t1_iuthvlh wrote

Didn't help the sanctions from piling on though. That chapter of history gets buried way too deep from public consciousness given who the supposed "democracies" were supporting.

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Kered13 t1_iuv298y wrote

He's not talking about the Vietnam War, he's talking about the Third Indochina War, in which Vietnam invaded and occupied Cambodia. Vietnam was very much not fighting a defensive war there.

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Raging-Fuhry t1_iuv2hxo wrote

I know lol, why else would they be fighting the Khmer Rouge.

They were fighting a defensive war against an aggressive and probing Cambodia that was in kahoots with China, Vietnam's long time nemesis.

I'd say it was defensive when the Khmer Rouge starting killing Vietnamese villagers on the border.

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Kered13 t1_iuv4tj0 wrote

The Khmer Rouge started the war by raiding Vietnamese villages, but the Vietnamese invasion and occupation of Cambodia, which was the vast vast majority of the war, was not a defensive operation. I don't know if maybe you're taking this as some kind of moral judgement, because it's definitely not. It's just a fact that an invasion is inherently offensive.

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Kered13 t1_iuv2c4l wrote

Cambodians were happy to get rid of the Khmer Rouge, but they were not happy with the Vietnamese puppet government or the Vietnamese soldiers who remained for years. There is a reason that the Third Indochina War lasted 16 years and ended with Vietnam's withdrawal.

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24111 t1_iuthnrb wrote

Up until the end where the occupation turned extremely unpopular, and afaik plenty of Cambodians don't see that favorably today.

They still had a way better justification than the US got anywhere hilariously enough, but that didn't stop the sanctions. And Polpot were pretty much alive and well still at the end of the occupation, supported by Thailand.

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