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RenegadeMoose t1_it420y0 wrote

I heard a group of about 40,000 went with to Constantinople from Rome when Constantine made it the new capital.

But really, I prefer to think of it as:

  • The Romans conquered the Greeks way back when.
  • But several centuries later the Romans moved to the East, you could almost say Greek culture conquered the Romans :o
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HistoriaNova t1_it4fzhx wrote

> But several centuries later the Romans moved to the East, you could almost say Greek culture conquered the Romans :o

Graecia capta ferum victorem cepit et artes intulit agresti Latio

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Sonicowen t1_it4feqw wrote

The legend says the romans were survivors of Troy so its Greeks all the way down.

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RenegadeMoose t1_it556r2 wrote

That's an interesting point. One could argue the Trojans weren't actually Greeks, but then other says there are Trojan names in the Illiad that translate to Greek ( leading some to speculate that the citizens of Troy were a mix of Trojans and Greeks when the siege was happening ).

Others dispute the story altogether.

But there is that "Etruscan" linguistic angle ( that Etruscan doesn't fit with other local languages back then, lending weight to the idea they came from Troy ).

I once wondered where the word Etruscan came from and if it was some kind of form of "ex-trojan"? (e-troyscan ? I dunno). We'll never know for sure, but all that bronze-age stuff (like, 1000-1600BCE or so? ) is just great fun to speculate on :D

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Timppadaa t1_it4tgo6 wrote

> I heard a group of about 40,000 went with to Constantinople from Rome when Constantine made it the new capital.

Wasnt this from around the empire? And since it was voluntary migration, most of those migrans were opportunist or who had nothing and wanted to start from a fresh plate.

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