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OptimalCrew7992 OP t1_ja8vzrw wrote

New research reveals that Europe's oldest known humans had frequent interbreeding with Neanderthals, challenging previous assumptions about the rarity of such interactions. The study also found evidence of genetic mixing between different populations of early humans in Europe, shedding new light on the complex history of human evolution. This article highlights the key findings and implications of the study

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vankorgan t1_jab90h1 wrote

I feel like this exact same article comes out once a year. Didn't we already know this?

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dub-fresh t1_ja9xtmd wrote

This is the only way I've ever learned about this. The homosapien genetics essentially 'won' over time.

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wittor t1_jaa9ifm wrote

I would not say there was something to lose or win in this case. As new populations (of homo sapiens) settled(in Europe, coming from other regions) the admixture (of the gene polls of both populations) diluted Neanderthal's contribution (that they made to the gene poll of the more ancient population) to the total gene pool of (present) Europe.
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Swanlafitte t1_jab5e68 wrote

My guess is there are more Neanderthal genes around today than at any time before. One study says they never had more than 5000-70,000 at their peak. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sciencealert.com/how-a-perfect-storm-of-sex-and-population-size-may-have-sealed-the-neanderthals-fate/amp

If this is correct then they were never diluted.

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supersecretaqua t1_jaaup6a wrote

Is that not what they said? I think you interpreted it as somehow meaning "the genes themselves physically lost battles in expression" or something but I'm certain they're just talking about overall dilution over time for the reasons you said ad an example lol, since that is generally the thing like they said

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wittor t1_jab7g0f wrote

I think winning and losing are not a good analogy for the fluctuations on a gene pool caused by the contact of two previously separate populations and their interbreeding.

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supersecretaqua t1_jab9u36 wrote

Plenty of people disagree with you. It's officially used more than you seem to realize. It is the reality of it too. Like the words literally properly encompass what happened... If a species dies out... It lost. Period.

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hobbit_lamp t1_jaatnn4 wrote

right? like, is this some Mandela Effect or something? I didn't think it was such a rare thing but I have seen more than one article suggest it.

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dub-fresh t1_jaavjdk wrote

Yeah I'm 40, lol. Can't believe I just assumed everyone knew this for all these years.

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Lesbaru t1_jaabljz wrote

Someone more talented than me needs to write a movie script or book about this. Move over Montagues and Capulets.

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StillAFelon t1_jaaf2ar wrote

Clan of the Cave Bears isn't too far off...the rest of the series is just smut though. We'll written smut, but smut nonetheless

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kakapo88 t1_jaakwid wrote

Ten. Loved the first book, even if it was a bit silly in places. And then it got sillier and smuttier, but in a highbrow Paleolithic way.

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Lycaeides13 t1_jaaq8dr wrote

The information was well researched but Mary Sue and her husband with the magic deflowering dong started to drive me crazy. The last book was such a come down in quality.

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04221970 t1_jaac4ew wrote

This assumes there was consistent and real conflict between the two populations.

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AnarchoGaymer t1_jab71sk wrote

do we know that homo sapiens are not just a mix of homo something and neanderthals?

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Loki11910 t1_jaa93re wrote

Well the Neanderthal may have actually been a night active predator, which almost made the homo sapiens go extinct. That is at least the theory raised in "Sapiens a brief history of mankind" so I would say almost none of it was.

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Musk-Order66 t1_jaaenul wrote

Hey I’m 3rd Generation European-American… I’m a night owl. Medications don’t seem to work to keep me awake during the day and active at night.

I have epic light sensitivity and see very well in the dark.

… can I blame it on my Neanderthal night hunter genes!?!

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