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faulternative t1_j6jcmqf wrote

Reply to comment by totallyjaded in Oh boy 👀 - how do we think the list will look? by JupitersCubes

I like to hear Crin's opinion but I don't take it too seriously because he's done so many collabs. One or two is cool but after awhile it feels like he just gets paid to put his name on it and shill it.

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imsolass t1_j6ji53j wrote

He doesn't really review his own collabs in the tier list though

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Tsunameh t1_j6jryhg wrote

The whole getting collabs thing wildly skews points of interest here. How do you know he isn't intentionally favoring brands that have worked with him in order to get more collabs with them? How do you know he's reviewing products that compete directly with his collabs fairly? Not reviewing the products he helped make should be given and not some kind of "look i'm not biased" statement.

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imsolass t1_j6julib wrote

I think he's said at some point that he's only done one collab per price bracket, and afaik it's mostly brand agnostic (with the exception of 7hz dioko/zero, which were done together)

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Mr_Build3R t1_j6lu504 wrote

It's called trust, and you don't have to trust him.

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faulternative t1_j6jiypc wrote

No but he's not exactly neutral about them either, which makes sense, but it does take away from his objectivity IMO

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imsolass t1_j6jj8n0 wrote

But it really doesn't matter what his opinions are on his own collabs because they're never presented in comparison to other stuff (ranking list). It's totally fine for him to make a video about his collabs and be like "omg guys collab wow!!" but he doesn't really say that "this is better than this other one or worse than this other one" in those videos, or put them on his ranking list

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Redditforgoit t1_j6jm95d wrote

If Crin gets paid for a colab, then a cheaper, better rival shows up, how likely is he to damage the prospects of his business partners by being fully honest about a model that might take sales away from his colab? Anything in the price range of any iem he's sponsored/planning to sponsor is now suspect.

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imsolass t1_j6joiox wrote

Possibly. Off the top of my head, the collabs I can remember:

  1. blessing 2 dusk: I think he still has the blessing 2 at 3* value on his ranking list

  2. 7hz dioko: the 7hz timeless was at 3* value on the list, and I don't think he's updated it to include the LETSHUOER S12 yet (pretty common theme going forward)

  3. truthear x crinacle zero: he made a video about this one, but it's not on the list. tbh I'm not sure what competes with this, but there's been a massive explosion of budget IEMs recently and none of them are on the list, so I'm really not sure what to compare it to

  4. 7hz Salnotes Zero: he made a video about this one too, but it kinda blew up in popularity before he made a video on it, because it was the first post moondrop chu budget IEM that matched its tuning and had a removable cable. it's not on his list either, along with any of its competitors (wan'er, Quarks DSP, cadenza etc) and the only one on his list currently in this realm is the Moondrop Chu with a 3* value rating too.

I don't really know what else he's done, I guess something in the $200 range and something above $1k? But so far it seems like he's been pretty impartial about not letting his collabs influence his ratings, and I hope that kinda sticks with the revised list. It would definitely be suspicious if he rates all the budget IEMs as 2 star for example and just says "worser than the 7hz zero", but I think if he just compares them with each other and excludes the 7hz zero (as an example) then it's pretty legit

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icantfindfree t1_j6khvh8 wrote

A few of his colabs were paid in a single lump sum (couldn't tell you which ones off the top of my head, just remember him mentioning this). Still, you have the idea of prestige, but even then from having watched him enough and listening to a lot of headphones his tastes lines up close enough with mine and my opinions, so eh idk I'm still fine following him for general recommendations

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faulternative t1_j6jjl50 wrote

In your opinion. Mine differs. Isn't it cool how that works?

Edit: LOL down votes for literally the most truthful thing possible. Gotta love Reddit fanboys

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imsolass t1_j6mn2rl wrote

Downvoted because I didn't really give an opinion, so saying "in your opinion" doesn't make sense. I'm just telling you what he's done so far

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Mr_Build3R t1_j6luz27 wrote

If you're advertising your product, why would you be neutral about it? You're going to talk about it in a positive light, and the main thing Crinacle brings up is the tuning and the reasoning behind it.

And outside of him showing a graph with anything he reviews, there's not really any objectivity in his reviews. Go read a detailed page on whatever you're looking up if you want more objectivity.

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faulternative t1_j6m2g7w wrote

>If you're advertising your product, why would you be neutral about it?

I literally said it makes sense why he isn't, but all his fanboys present him as though he's a purely data driven authority when he isn't.

>Go read a detailed page on whatever you're looking up if you want more objectivity

Gee, I never thought of that!

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Mr_Build3R t1_j6m3rbw wrote

You're right, I didn't see your nonexistent comment LITERALLY saying why he isn't.

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faulternative t1_j6m6eo5 wrote

From my initial comment:

No but he's not exactly neutral about them either, which makes sense, but it does take away from his objectivity IMO

I also say "IMO", which means "In MY opinion" so chill the fuck out, fanboy

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faulternative t1_j6m6ado wrote

Try looking back to the comment you first responded to. The words "which makes sense" are right there in plain English.

I'm guessing you only remember the last couple words of what you read?

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