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pinkcunt123 t1_j69yqxj wrote

Without EQ there would not be a single open back that provides the bass shelf I like, with correct mids and treble, i.e. there aint not Harman tuned open back!

Well, there is the DCA Expanse, but 4700€ for the privilege do not have to use EQ? Nah, I think I am good :)

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golfmd2 t1_j6b8g0z wrote

I demoed the expanse. It’s nice but it doesn’t have the soundstage of the hd800s I tried during the same session.

With eq the hd800s might be the closest thing to perfect I’ve owned. Believe it or not, the Sony mdr z1r is right there as well

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Ezees t1_j6fw5bf wrote

IDK man - to me, HFM and Audeze planars have delectable bass and subbass - while still having excellent mids and treble......

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pinkcunt123 t1_j6h76e6 wrote

Well, you have a different bass preference then. I need the Harman shelf in my life and thus I need EQ for open backs.

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Ezees t1_j6j0ifr wrote

Of course, some people like more bass than others - especially if they're used to the boosted bass in consumer-level headphones as a matter of course. Happy listening......

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pinkcunt123 t1_j6j0xcu wrote

Condescending much?

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Ezees t1_j6ja5ro wrote

Not meant as a personal attack nor to be condescending - just stating a fact. Most consumer-level HPs are bass boosted. IOW, no lies detected. Look at professional HPs like the HD-600 and see that their bass isn't nearly as boosted as Bose, Beats, or Skullcandy - it's much more "reference" - yet most consumers like those latter brands' SQ more than the Senns. As a matter of fact, if I let a typical novice consumer hear Bose/Beats side by side with an Arya or HD-800S - they'd likely choose the former b/c of the name recognition/marketing along with the bass boost. Again, no lies detected.....

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KiyPhi t1_j6bo85t wrote

The Expanse also won't have those features without a good seal. I'd had to buy those only to find out that I need to EQ them anyway because they don't sit right on my head.

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