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thewaldo77 OP t1_j5wq3dp wrote

newbie audio enthusiast here

After watching some reviews I bought the tin p1 max big panda on avexchange and damn do they have everything that I've been looking for. A warm neutral tuning with just the right amount of bass. Reviewers mentioned them having a very "relaxed" sound and those are exactly my thoughts,. They sound so damn smooth even in the treble never sounding sibilant or fatiguing. Vocals have a nice weight to them and sound natural, my favorite thing about this iem honestly I love some good vocals. The "timbre" I think? is really great every instrument just sounds so natural as if i were hearing it in person. In terms of technical performance performance its really good for the price soundstage feels decently wide, detail retrieval/separation is super impressive, and imaging is very accurate. Its not at the level of the moondrop blessing 2's technical performance but Imo it gets fairly close to it. For comfort, it beats everything that I've had blessing 2, t3 plus, and the raptgo hook x. Been using spinfit tips and those contribute to the comfort as well. I mainly listen to rock/metal, indie rock/pop occasionally hip hop and the p1max had done really well with these genres. These have also since replaced my fidelio x2hr for gaming due to the accurate imaging.

Got into this hobby with the fidelio x2hr enjoyed them at first but overtime really disliked the tuning and technical performance. Then got into iems with the t3 plus and much preferred them due to the balanced warm sound over the fidelios although their technical performance was really average. I than bought blessing 2's and really enjoyed their technical performance but disliked the cold/analytical tuning. As for the raptgo hook x they had a grainy texture to them that I wasn't a fan of.

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FastGecko5 t1_j5wsx2h wrote

I had a set of these, ended up selling them because the fit just wasn't great for me. But sound-wise, they're very very good. They're kinda slept on, nobody talks about them. They're really overshadowed by the Letshuoer S12.

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thewaldo77 OP t1_j5wthva wrote

yeah Ive read that the fit have been an issue for quite a few and true these really are overshadowed by the s12 which ive also tried.

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FastGecko5 t1_j5wtqut wrote

Yeah it's a real shame about the fit. I wish they were shaped more like the T3+ or my Audiosense DT200. That universal-custom shape of the aforementioned work really well in my ears so it sucks that the P1 Max didn't quite fit right for me. It's probably the best sounding IEM I've tried.

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thewaldo77 OP t1_j5wu3u0 wrote

ah ok yeah its crazy how iem fit varies I honestly found these quite a bit more comfortable than my t3 plus despite having a bigger shell

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FastGecko5 t1_j5wux8j wrote

Honestly the fit was bearable for around the house but IEMs shaped like the T3+ and DT200 are just a lot more secure for me, which is important because I use them on the go and while I work out. The P1 Max would definitely come loose if I worked out in them. Oh well.

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thewaldo77 OP t1_j5wvvmk wrote

how do you like the dt200 compared to t3 plus? was thinking of buying them before I got the p1 max.

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FastGecko5 t1_j5wwnbf wrote

They sound very different from each other. The DT200 is very much warm-neutral while the T3+ is very definitely u-shaped. The T3+ sounds more open but they're about on-par for detail retrieval and resolution. I really like both IEMs but I ultimately decided to keep the DT200 because it is so incredibly comfortable.

The P1 Max blows both of them out of the water for soundstage and technicalities, but it does sound a lot thinner and colder than either of them. Although the vocals on the T3+ sound weirdly compressed compared to the DT200 and P1 Max.

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thewaldo77 OP t1_j5x1kck wrote

True I really wasn't expecting the the p1 max to blow the t3+ out of the water haven't even bothered with testing them side by side, guess ill keep them as backup, and maybe ill try the dt200 at some point. Also thought the same about the t3+ vocals and compressed describes it well.

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RubenRag t1_j60i4u4 wrote

I keep looking at these, maybe time to drop the hammer

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thewaldo77 OP t1_j60k3sm wrote

definitely would recommend they've been on sale at linsoul for a while now too

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omarccx t1_j61qano wrote

I have the original P1 which I also got for $70. They sound honky AF stock, but man do they transform after an EQ. Solid buy OP.

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thewaldo77 OP t1_j62f1z7 wrote

what do you mean by honky lol?

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omarccx t1_j62fg53 wrote

Unlistenable lol Like a pair of skullcandy

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thewaldo77 OP t1_j62fv5s wrote

oh damn lol knew the original p1 wasn't too great but not on the level of some skullcandys

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omarccx t1_j62gwyw wrote

It's kinda wild though, they're genuinely good after EQing. I liked it more than the 6XX, ZMF Classic and HE500 I had at the time

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thewaldo77 OP t1_j62hqbp wrote

did you use oratorys eq settings for the p1? Ive tried to eq in the past but have never gotten the results I was looking for

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omarccx t1_j62i5ny wrote

I used it as a starting point but I made a couple of changes. I kinda mixed 3 separate EQs I had used on them.

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thewaldo77 OP t1_j62ie7u wrote

interesting what was the overall sound signature like after doing this?

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omarccx t1_j62iwm4 wrote

They held up to a 10db bass shelf without distortion and the rest was a matter of defucking the hollow mids and nuking the mt everest peak around 10k.

They were then quite pleasing and balanced while keeping the planar traits like speed and detail. Still a smaller head stage by being IEMs, but very impressive for their size. I only use foam tips with them. They aren't quite as natural sounding as some dynamics, but it didn't bother me considering their other traits. And I genuinely couldn't go back to non EQ. Even my wife was surprised by them and she hates treble.

I do wanna try the Max, but just looking at it I know it won't be comfortable. I couldn't wear the FH3 or the Zu tan wu, I get ear pain/sore spots a after 15 minutes.

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Noob4Head t1_j5xz00a wrote

I'm curious how these would compare to the moondrop aria snow editions.

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thewaldo77 OP t1_j60kde0 wrote

hmm I do wonder I've always heard good things about the aria

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Noob4Head t1_j60krhh wrote

I've been using Moondrop Aria snow editions for about a week now and I've been really enjoying them but I've also heard really good things about these they were on my wishlist too together with the Tin T2's

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ItsCajunTime t1_j63e6gv wrote

Such a great set. Got a pair for christmas and just about everything is great about them to my ears. Probably one of if not the best bang for your buck IEM right now that isn’t a 20ish dollar single DD

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thewaldo77 OP t1_j65e27y wrote

nice, how are they doing with your music library? Everytime i go through a different album on these Im just so impressed

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ItsCajunTime t1_j671jit wrote

Pretty dang solid. I’m a big electronic guy and some stuff hasn’t sounded great to my ears (Justice’s Cross specifically) but after some light EQ, oh wow

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