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Due_Passion_920 t1_j23pyly wrote

>many popular headphones (audeze, hifiman, sennheiser etc) have large portions of nonlinear and non- minimum phase response within their operating range.

Can you please post excess group delay measurements of all these 'many popular headphones' with 'large portions' of non-minimum phase response?

>I mean I would say a 5ms delay in the low frequencies in those plots is pretty significant...

That's measurement noise. See here.

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[deleted] t1_j23w4ra wrote

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Due_Passion_920 t1_j24gu8l wrote

Do you have any evidence excess group delay at these levels is audible?

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[deleted] t1_j24kby7 wrote

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Due_Passion_920 t1_j24nizt wrote

So you have zero evidence to present to back up your claims, got it. That's not how science works.

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Due_Passion_920 t1_j25yppd wrote

No need. People who do actual science, interested in the furthering of knowledge for everyone via transparent academic research, rather than secretive industry insiders preoccupied with lining their pockets and an aversion to sharing data except to a select elitist few with NDAs, have already made their research publicly available. So that's a positive group delay audibility threshold of ~1.5 ms for actual music signals, which few headphones will exceed.

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Umlautica t1_j27gu72 wrote

You both seem like reasonable people that just caught each other on a bad day. I took the liberty and nuked the tail of the exchange to stop the escalation.

Happy to re-instate the exchange if both parties think it's worthwhile.

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