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Quote_a t1_j1xx2eh wrote

I also recently got a pair of these and am not even sure what I could possibly upgrade to from here without spending a few times more. The level of detail and separation is fantastic while having a soundstage that isn't so wide it sounds too separate, the sound signature is pretty much exactly what I like (very slight V shape), and they might be the most comfortable headphones I've ever owned. I do find the extreme upper mids/lower treble to be a little muffled due to the disc they have over the drivers, but it's not distracting. It's the first time I've ever not felt that itch you mentioned immediately after getting new headphones.

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Dunkleosteus666 OP t1_j1y5h8t wrote

Yeah thats good to hear;p What also makes the somewhat distinct from other brands is that //every// part (every screw. The driver is easily taken out and replaced) is replacable. And beyerdynamic keeps spare parts for a //long// time.

Yes i know about diminishing returns at a certain point. The upgrade from 50€ headphones (which i never had, as the dt 770 were my first) to 150€ and then to 250€ gets smaller at a certain point. I read somewhere that in the very high price range you pay a lot more marginal improvements.

Thought about getting the dt 1770 instead. A dealbreaker was the 250 ohm impedance as they should both be an upgrade to dt 770 and alternative to vmoda m100 (which i really like, but its a tad to bassy for some stuff, and the soundstage is smaller. ). Could have had the dt 1770 for 470€ but 200€ less is 200€ less. And i really hate taking my amp everywhere lol. 3 things idid not enjoy about dt 770 1)3m fixed cable.. 2) it looks simply not nice 3)impedance so it fixed this plus the sound/tuning.

Yesterday i listened 3h (after midnight) to lots of my usual stuff (see comment) theyre fantastic soundwise.

Edit: i also thought about replacing my (8 years old) shure se215 iems by a more neutral souning iem in the same pricerange (so not more then 150€). Possibly sennheiser ie300 as its reduced by 100€ on amazon. Or i have to buy a new driver for the right side which i guess will cost a lot. But i dont care about iems that much anymore, as the only advantage is isolation (for me) compared to headphones (which sound wider, more lively. You know it). So i might not.

Edit2: the slightly recessed trebele or muffled souning is better than the high accentuated treble on say dt770. When sou say listen to some very badly mixed black metal it simply hurts in your ears.

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Quote_a t1_j27n4o8 wrote

Been checking out more stuff with them the last couple of days, and I think these headphones might renew my interest in metal. The separation is incredible for how busy metal can get, separate guitar riffs and bass and vocals all stay clear even on metal that isn't produced super well, and unlike some open cans I've used instruments are still close enough together that everything still feels cohesive when guitars are supposed to be playing off each other. Guitars also just sound fantastic on these, they're great at letting you hear detail in the tone and effects without making them overly aggressive or fatiguing.

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