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Cameri- OP t1_irx52db wrote
Love the AirPods Pro 2 for workouts or when I am at my job, but listening to my favorite songs with the humble Apple Dongle paired with venerable Moondrop Blessing 2 Dusk just makes things a lot more enjoyable, with the added benefit of not worrying about charging yet another accessory in my everyday carry. The convenience of Bluetooth is unmatched, but at the end of the day wired > wireless.
ashyjay t1_irx8mg7 wrote
Grow up.
dztryrph t1_irx8sb8 wrote
Lol. Fruit brand fanboy
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_fish_flips t1_irx9xv4 wrote
You have no brain
LifeAspect t1_irxb4jw wrote
wdym the airpods pro 2 are the best iems ever made
serious tho: as much as I like my wired iems, the convenience of the airpods pro 2 are just nice during office hours / working out etc. While I'll agree they pale in comparison to wired iems sound wise, I do get their massive appeal. They also aren't the worst in sound and they are on par with 100 euro iems easily. You are just paying 200 euro extra for the convenience and features. The tuning of the new generation of airpods pro isn't even half bad if I am honest...
LifeAspect t1_irxbrdz wrote
they aren't even that badly tuned.
Ready_Throat5369 t1_irxcllv wrote
I completely thought this was a straggler meme monday post that got popped up for me on a tuesday
Cameri- OP t1_irxcmop wrote
100% with you on this. Not having to worry about wires and the general hassle-free experience I get with the AirPods Pro 2 is pretty great. I used to know the AirPods Pro Gen 1 and they definitely improved on these by a noticeable amount. Transparency mode also comes in handy if I'm in the city and need to worry about cars or construction, and making/answering phone calls has been crystal clear. Overall a really solid package for everything you get.
Cameri- OP t1_irxh2h2 wrote
It is just superb! The TTC Gold Pink switches feel so fast and smooth, it's like butter lol. The whole space/wormhole aesthetic is in contrast to the rest of my gear but I love it, build quality is top tier as well. Overkill for my needs but will satisfy my mechanical keyboard needs for a long time.
djneo t1_irxj9ah wrote
If anyone has an advice for nice non in ears i'm all welcome
ewmcdade t1_irxjgqm wrote
They are great quality though. Only a few years ago little plastic earbuds that didn’t seal sounded like shit with no bass. The Gen 3’s have great bass and even have a nice and open soundstage.
djneo t1_irxkegk wrote
Yeah I had the first gen and was very surprised about there sound. I use them mainly when traveling and at work to call or sometimes for background music if i don't have my proper headphones there or don't want to wear them
NotNerd-TO t1_irxkpis wrote
The convenience of the AirPods only exists because of what Apple started. If the headphone jack was still common on phones, having wired IEMs wouldn’t be anywhere near as much of an inconvenience. I realise I’m a moron but I’ve lost count of how many of the lighting to 3.5mm I’ve had to buy. Not to mentioned the fact that I can’t have my phone on charge and listen to music, unless I use my wireless earbuds. Bring back the headphone jack.
HongKong_Bussy_Lmao t1_irxlatk wrote
Technically airpods pro are an iem too
deadxobbit t1_irxnrhq wrote
Ah, a GN Wireframe mousemat, nice!
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Cameri- OP t1_irxpg4k wrote
Glad you noticed! GN deserves any support they can get because of the honesty and transparency in their journalism. One of the few channels on the platform that refuses to compromise on the truth even when they’ve been offered bribes or threats alike.
suppaboy228 t1_irxqz7b wrote
They're IE, but not M.
Available-Film3084 t1_irxr6wd wrote
Not really, at least for me. I always hated the cable when i was out doing something so when the first "wireless" earbuds (those that had a cable running between them only) hit the market i was over the moon for it. I'll happily sacrifice quality over convenience for when I'm at the gym or taking a walk.
WatchAndEatPopcorn t1_irxrwrf wrote
Define M though... I think IEM for casual listening or even audiophile purposes has coopted the term used to monitor ones live performance... so I would argue that all these aren't really M.
suppaboy228 t1_irxsnfr wrote
Monitoring means being able to hear yourself through the recording/live performance equipment. That's not the case with wireless headphones of any sort as of now.
The first issue is latency, especially on instruments
Then there's quality.
And finally, you can't connect bluetooth headphones to the interface/radio system with no additional gear which can be an issue
FarImpact4184 t1_irxu81v wrote
Yeah imo people that hate on airpods are just snobs with no ear they sound better than they should
WatchAndEatPopcorn t1_irxujjr wrote
I agree, but I do feel like the term has already been repurposed. How many people on this subreddit are using an IEM for monitoring performances vs listening to music?
In practical modern internet usage, the earbuds that insert into the canal are IEMs, so the AirPods Pro 2.0 is just as much an "IEM" as the Moondrop Chu. Even if the later has more potential utility as an actual IEM.
For the record, I hate that and feel like "IEM" shouldn't be used in this context. But if we're already abusing it, and that ship has already sailed, I don't see much issue applying it to bluetooth sets.
agastyaseth t1_irxukys wrote
Personally I keep both with me too as they serve different purposes. Although I do believe even strictly SQ-wise too APP is pretty decent and stands it’s own with sub-100$ IEMs.
suppaboy228 t1_irxuvhr wrote
For me, the last border is them being wired.
If the earbuds are wired and are of higher quality, they can be called iem in my book.
As long as they're wireless, they're tws buds.
Oscillus t1_irxvu0p wrote
I'm sure it's semantics at this point but ...
Airpods Pro in transparency mode most definitely let you hear yourself ;)
I'll let myself out now
suppaboy228 t1_irxwjhv wrote
There's more to that than just hearing your voice.
I'm talking about listening to stuff that's being recorded or performed.
For example, you are tracking vocals and you are too forward and the proximity effect is giving you too much lower frequencies. You won't hear that with transparency mode.
Or you are tracking the guitar and need it to have an instant response (up to 10 ms latency is fine). You won't be able to play to the click if the latency is too big.
Hope you get my point.
Joesizzle442344 t1_irxxkh0 wrote
There is an adapter to charge and listen but I know it’s a pain in the butt!!!
ewmcdade t1_irxzjxw wrote
My other set of headphones are Denon D-7000. I’m not lying when I say AirPod 3 sounds similar tonally and spatially to those big semi-open headphones. It’s kind of ridiculous.
DatDominican t1_iry3nuy wrote
I have probably a dozen over ear and in ear headphones . I use my AirPods Pro more than all of them combined just due to the convenience and portability ,but when I want a critical/ serious listening session of course I pull out the actual headphones.
Also you guys are hella spoiled with all these decent cheap IEMS now . I remember when I was a teenager $100+ iems could still have had CABLE NOISE when moving so if you were walking listening to stuff you heard it rubbing against your shirt or ,God forbid, your zipper.
AshravenPB t1_iry629a wrote
Bluetooth headphones could be used as monitors based on that definition of monitoring. Sure they’d do the job poorly but they could still fill that role meaning the could still be considered monitors
suppaboy228 t1_iry787l wrote
This is the wrong tool for the wrong job.
As my grandpa said, you can hit the nail with a microscope. But if you can, it doesn't mean you should.
GreenSky2077 t1_iryiu2a wrote
Lol they hit different, it sounds like your smoking IEMs and enjoying the high 🥴.
rodaphilia t1_iryru4k wrote
But stage monitors would just connect to a wireless pack, anyway.
Acrobatic_Dinner6129 t1_iryv1xm wrote
seriously get a proper dac and amp or mobile player those dongels sounds like hot garbage
Koslovic t1_irz00ro wrote
nah, dongle good
jajdoo t1_irzeu63 wrote
did you try fiio utws5?
MediumElephant6 t1_irzlh9f wrote
The original AirPods Pro definitely pale in comparison to Moondrop Aria
MrSuicidalis t1_irzm0cy wrote
You should try bluetooth adapters! I use TRN BT30's with my iems, and the swappable connector really is great when yiu have several different iems. They have an inbuilt chip, so they can run some power-hungrier iems too.
iamStarLordSamurai t1_irzpx7l wrote
It’s all convenient and portability that’s the key factor AirPods are super hit. It just works but it’s no way near to my moondrop or ATXM50xBT
nevermakefunofea t1_irzt3gq wrote
I own blessing 2s, ER2XR and just a few weeks ago got my hands on the airpods pro 2. Sure the airpods don't sound as good as my blessing 2s but their portability is unmatched and their anc is really powerful so I use them while I'm out and about. But when I'm at home I'll stick to my blessings
suppaboy228 t1_irzw2lx wrote
Wireless pack isn't bluetooth. It's radio.
Attaching a bluetooth transmitter to a radio receiver doesn't seem practical for me considering the latency and quality issues
icantfindfree t1_irzxb4d wrote
I'm a drummer and I used my galaxy buds pro as monitors for the backing track literally every other day.
suppaboy228 t1_irzxzp8 wrote
This is not monitoring.
It would be monitoring if you were to play electronic drums through those earbuds.
Monitoring is being able to hear what the recording equipment is "hearing".
robotkutya87 t1_irzyhar wrote
Haha go oscilius, slay these nerds
my2dumbledores t1_irzz8ym wrote
Have you tried the Gen 2’s?
I used to use my APP’s for convenience. Now I also use them to chill out and listen to music at home.
my2dumbledores t1_irzzgjc wrote
I actually prefer my Gen 2’s.
The ANC means I can listen at very low levels, and I find the in-ear comfort unbeatable.
DetectiveAmes t1_is06u2t wrote
I love the gen 2’s. I used them for a few days but got an allergy from them so I had to stop though. They were so great and the audio quality was definitely improved too. I miss them 😢
Electrical-Monitor27 t1_is07yo0 wrote
This is an easy feature Apple should implement
goldfish_memories t1_is087rn wrote
Semantics. And what a weird hill to die on
B3nesyed t1_is0a8lo wrote
Damn why did this get so much hate!
tomatomater t1_is0brdi wrote
Just got a pair of affordable TWS earbuds recently and I'm spoiled by the convenience. Can't be bothered to bring my Andros out anymore unless I know that I'll have a long train/bus ride or something.
softriceking001 t1_is0o0w2 wrote
My hd600 sound so much better then the new pro.
jajdoo t1_is0qnw7 wrote
oh man i got no clue
Noob_master_6942021 t1_is16dfc wrote
Noice
AnyYak2956 t1_is18lwa wrote
An apple dongle is just fine for IEMs lmao
DatDominican t1_is1oytg wrote
No not yet , I’m lying to myself that I don’t want them and that I should be fine since I just got some custom iems a month ago and got some Xm5s in the summer when my Beats Studios (gift from gf) cracked .
DatDominican t1_is1rbxc wrote
No I haven’t had the chance but I have three similar tws dacs. The noise cancelling and transparency mode in the AirPods Pro is a big reason I use them more but the other is I prefer the fit vs over ear hooks.
If I know I’m going to be home , unbothered, I’ll end up using one of my open back headphones(or my studio monitors ) , and in the rare case I’ll be moving around town I can use my car speakers .If I’m walking around the AirPods Pro case is smaller iirc . I don’t have the utws5 to compare pass through audio so I can’t speak to that but that leaves me in a very narrow use case where I already have my iems , I can’t use the over ear headphones due to movement , and I’m somewhere where I can’t leave and go walk or jam in the car.
I could always just make a concerted effort to use the tws dacs more but as I said earlier the ear hooks become distracting for me to use for any extended length of time which usually makes me reach for some over ear headphones.
michael2v t1_is4w8ph wrote
Arias punch way above their weight class.
chammer36 t1_is5xnjf wrote
Any particular model you’d recommend?
Dougmw1337 t1_is616ul wrote
I mean they have a reasonably flat measurement, which is what the M is all about. Compare to those new Bose which looks like a mountain range.
suppaboy228 t1_is6evz9 wrote
As it was discussed, monitoring means being able to hear yourself when recording the performance.
Monitoring headphones should not be flat at all. Ones of the best monitoring headphones are 770's and m50x's.
Their spikes are intentional to make the singer record the vocals so that sibilants occur less and for better upper detail retrieval. Narrow soundstage also helps with that.
I don't know if it was designed with that in mind, but we use them for that specific reason as well as many other recording engineers.
And yes, no one is seriously mixing with those.
chammer36 t1_is6f8v0 wrote
michael2v t1_is6tr3j wrote
If you try them out, let us know what you think!
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