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Wise_Concentrate_182 t1_iu3cn6m wrote
Reply to comment by XxDankSaucexX in Honest question, did we hit peak headphone a while back? by Yammy_Lyfe
Crap unnatural sound in S12 and “Timeless” stuff. Sorry. All the internet craze for chi fi is utterly idiotic. Try picking a real IEM to discover what sound could be like. An Onkyo E700M (sadly they stopped making it) can be found on alibaba or eBay for 50 bucks. It’ll a 500 dollar Senn IE400 out of the water.
Bickster- t1_iu3hc4e wrote
most IEM's are better than the IE400
Also, if you want people to try something out, try to do it without smelling your own farts about your alleged superiority over the entire chifi market. I haven't heard of Onkyo, and I'd be happy to try them out, but you're not exactly giving me much to work with.
UnacceptableOwl t1_iu3r0e6 wrote
Onkyo is a Japanese hifi company. They primarily make receivers, amplifiers, and home audio equipment. Very similar to Denon. They both just also make headphones. I have eyed the E700M myself, but I ended up going with the Denon AH-C820 for the dual drivers and they're just absolutely phenomenal.
BadgerMcBadger t1_iu422mt wrote
>most IEM's are better than the IE400
what? i thought they were loved here
JustAu69 t1_iu4jpm6 wrote
Most Sennheiser IEMs are not loved on this sub
Pokrog t1_iu5cqir wrote
Idk people rant and rave about the IE300 and 600 and they're both just absolutely shit imo.
JustAu69 t1_iu62veg wrote
I've heard neither, but apparently the 600 are pretty good. For me it's just annoying to see them insanely cheap in US while I have to pay the full price here in Europe despite these being German
Bickster- t1_iu4kig6 wrote
It's a bit of an exaggeration, but the ie400 are very tonally unbalanced compared to its competitors
The ie600, on the other hand, is a very different story, and probably what you're referring to when you say this sub loves Sennheiser IEM's
Wise_Concentrate_182 t1_iu5bubf wrote
IE400 has a bit of exaggerated lower end but it’s not “unbalanced” by any stretch. IE600 gets to a 1,000 bucks. At that price range the options are many. IE400 hits a very sweet spot.
dittyboy t1_iu5ank3 wrote
The one that is loved and you see a lot is the ie600 likely. It was also boosted by a recent $200 off sale
Wise_Concentrate_182 t1_iu5bpld wrote
It’s the dumbest kind of comments you will see from fanboys of KZ or S12 or Timeless kind of rubbish. IE400 has stellar sound, for those who actually understand music and audio :)
Nadeoki t1_iu6qj4f wrote
Can you go into detail on "unnatural" ? To most people who've ever heard them they sound astonishingly good from all the reviews and listening tests on the internet (except for people who dislike harman I guess)
Wise_Concentrate_182 t1_iu80zk6 wrote
“Most people” includes a large swathe of the world buying Apple, beats, and 30 dollar Panasonic earphones. To me these are muddy, horribly distorted bass, and many build qualities. The treble is often sibilant. Mids muffled. Get an Onkyo E700M from eBay or alibaba for 50 bucks (irs discontinued, so these are old owners or remnant stock). Then get Timeless rubbish for 200 bucks. Listen to the same music on both. You’ll see what I mean.
Nadeoki t1_iu87elt wrote
notice how I said "most people who have heard them". I'm pretty sure Beats by Dr. Dre users don't know or care about audiophile brands or try their headphones
Wise_Concentrate_182 t1_iu8mruv wrote
Same difference. Different type of cluelessness. A vast majority of those who are pleased with chi fi garbage haven’t heard proper audio equipment. They have a Bluetooth speaker at home and are upgrading from the beats or 30 dollar Panasonics.
Nadeoki t1_iu8n2f6 wrote
Can you show me this kind of metric population data for these claims you're so confident to make?
Wise_Concentrate_182 t1_iu8nz3r wrote
Yeah sure. Everything relies on metric population data 🤣 Move along. Enjoy your KZ 10 :)
Nadeoki t1_iu8oiu3 wrote
Uhm, yes the kind of claim you made actually does.
I use SA-6 ULTRA's and NTH-100's but ok
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