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EDIT:
IEM: Sony MDR EX800ST (16 ohms:108dB/mW)
Dongle: Meizu Hifi Pro (goes up to 2vrms)
So even at 1 this thing is still too loud (for me of course)

RT

Me trying to find music player app that allows hardware volume and is also good looking

Try Hiby app

Nah. I'm happy with Neutron. It plays all my audio files unlike other apps.

But I like the UI of Neutron

I've been using Blackplayer EX, I just love how customizable everything is, but developer is no longer updating app and it doesn't have usb dac support.

quick question do you happen to own the CD900ST I love these cans and have heard the EX800ST may be its iem little brother

No. And Sony is kinda notorious for its headphones game (ie polarizing unlike their IEMs which is generally liked).

I have the CD900ST and thunk their great, it's nice to hear their iems are probably good too tho

So the looks of a software is more important to you than the functionality? You should definitly change your mindset about this, looks is the least important thing in any product

I wouldn‘t say least important. It is just as important as the function. If the design and layout is crap but it has the be functions ever created it‘s still crap.

A good design is like a manual you don‘t have to read, you just know what to do.

Let‘s stick with ‚Form follows function‘ which still adds to your point just without the exaggeration.

Have you tried Musicolet ? I don't know if it supports it but it's the best music player I have ever used, and the developer is quite active and responds fast to emails if you need something or have a problem.

Really not, a lot of people seem to hate the unmodified Equalizer APO but I really like it, or when it comes to converting an image strip to a gif, people use god knows what software, I like to use Image Magick, sure, you have to work in a CMD window in a command line, but I couldn't care less, if you do it right the result is awesome. I would ABSOLUTELY NEVER sacrarice functionality for a UX optimised program, besides Marketing people, UX designers are my worst enemy, it's just that people got lazy and stupid and can't figure out how things work if it isn't directly handed to them on a silver plate, which often means sacraficing a lot of functionality, that's also why almost every company only give you a 3-band EQ, the average user would have absolutely no idea what they should do if they got a full blown Parametric EQ handed to them, if the documentation is good it doesn't take more than a bit of common sense and a few minutes if reading to figure out how things work, sure, it's annoying at the beginning but it'll make your life 10x easier in the long run, I have UX in university and I hate absolutely everything we are learning there, quite literally the opposite of what I would do

That‘s you and me but not every body in the word is a technician and wants to deep dive into something he just quickly needs.

Have you read what I‘ve written? ‚Form follows function’ and not the other way around as you are suggesting.

Yeah, I know, that's what you are supposed to do, but that's also not what I want to do, and if it means getting a terrible experience for 90% of users but getting an awesome experience for the other 10% of users who like being able to do whatever they want then that's a sacrifice I am willing to make

Amazing quality, really good. Would it be possible you could make the 5-panel version where it gose back to him smling with the red eye thing?

I do not actually plan on using this...

but it's UHD so I am saving it anyways

Holding on to my LG G8 ThinQ until absolute destruction. Excellent Sabre DAC chips and nice 3.5 mm headphone jack :)

The hell you talking about? What I mean about this is that Neutron has a lot of functionality but people absolutely hate the UI (understandably, cause it's not intuitive like Poweramp). I like the UI because that's what I'm used to it.

Haha those are some very easy to drive headphones!

You could turn on "linear scale" option to get much more flexibility in changing volume levels.

Audio Hardware >> Direct USB Access >> Volume Control >> Linear Scale

It worked! What does it do tho?

Love my MDR EX800ST! I popped out the little ring inside and pulled out the foam and it sounds a lot better to me! A fair bit brighter and wider. People are comparing it to the EX1000ST after that modification.

I am not entirely sure what it does, but it feels like turning on "linear scale" spreads volume (over 100 levels) much more evenly if that makes sense.

For example:

When I use apple dongle for my iems, I usually gets comfortable volume around 3-5 steps of volume level. But increase in one more step of volume level from this makes it painfully loud without linear scale turned on.

With linear scale turned on I usually end up in comfortable volume around 60-70 steps. And increase in each steps of volume level is not making it painfully loud.

So I get much more flexibility in adjusting volume to taste with linear scale on.

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It acts on the volume in a linear way, where the volume scale (decibels) work in a logarithmic way. Meaning you'll get a ton of volume at max, then it'll drop off quite rapidly and from 50% down to 0, it's fairly quiet. You can see this behavior in guitar volume pots, which are also classified as linear or logarithmic

Ex800st gang present!

"But look at all these features!" isn't an excuse for a bad UI. I'll gladly take features over UX any day since most of the time you can just simply get used to it, but that's not gonna stop me from bashing how terrible something looks.

I haven't verified, but what it should do is convert the volume level from logarithmic to linear. I'll explain.

Log based systems in effect take the logarithm of value. This means that if the volume goes up 10x there is still room on the scale.

Linear doubles the sound when the number doubles (2 doubles to 4, 50 doubles to 100).

In specific cases you can find things happening like with a lot scale 1 can be too high. But with a linear scale that same 1 value usually ends up somewhere around 5-10. The downside is that if you have a device that requires the upper end of scale you've lost all volume control, it has become just an on-off switch as the granularity at the top is lost.

>on the volume in a linear way, where the v

Some many have custom their Neutron and is pretty cool but is too slow to change all the settings

I nodded the hell out of the ex800's and they soundstage is even wider than my Edition XS.

Have you tried HiByMusic? It's free and I'm currently trying it out, the ui looks faaaar nicer than neutron and uapp, as well as it being free lol and offering basically the same features