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oratory1990 t1_isa21uv wrote

Reply to comment by Detectiveleht in Most discriminating audio reviewer by SnooStories7223

> it still isn’t neutral because the bass and treble are amplified.

That's hypothetical, because the preferred sound of most people is not V-shaped (when given the option).

The word "neutral" comes from latin "ne utrum", meaning "neither of both".
In this context it refers to "neither too little nor too much".

If the average person (in a properly conducted listening test, which is hard to do) prefers a sound, then by definition it is neutrum, meaning it leans neither in one direction nor in the other direction.

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Detectiveleht t1_isefu9a wrote

>If the average person (in a properly conducted listening test, which is hard to do) prefers a sound, then by definition it is neutrum, meaning it leans neither in one direction nor in the other direction.

This doesn't sound right to me. As far as I understand, neutral sound means that all frequencies are perceived at the same volume. i.e the sound doesn't lean toward one nor in the other direction.

Preferring a sound doesn't make it neutral.

For example. If a person likes their foods sweet then it doesn't mean that sweet is neutral. Sweet is still sweet and neutral means not too sweet nor not too bitter.

To me it seems that you made a mistake and instead of having the courage to admit it, you doubled down.

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oratory1990 t1_iset0i5 wrote

> neutral sound means that all frequencies are perceived at the same volume. i.e the sound doesn't lean toward one nor in the other direction.

That's exactly it though - you get a rotary button to control the amount of bass, and you get asked to dial it in until it sounds correct, as in "it sounds the way it should sound".
You repeat this with many, many people go get a meaningful average.

"neutral" does not mean "flat on a measurement".

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Detectiveleht t1_isfefba wrote

it seems this doesn’t lead anywhere so let’s just agree to disagree.

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