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Amaakaams t1_jdkxpnv wrote

Wait your working theory is that the super secretive Project Red is a Crin retune of an already released product that Crin tuned?

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ArkhamKnight0708 OP t1_jdky129 wrote

The goal of the Zero was to get a great Harman tuning with a DD exclusively for sub bass. Project Red could be a similar thing but for his ideal tuning. I'm not saying it couldn't be different though but the whole exterior is currently near identical to the Zero

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Amaakaams t1_jdl0ddf wrote

I don't know know it looks generically pie/arrow shape. Maybe a little more Zero than some others. But along those lines it also looks like it could be something from 64 Audio.

Just joshing about the whole Crin already tuned it portion. But even as someone as prevalent in the Reviewer/Tuner world. Reproaching your own work this quickly would be a bit odd.

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ArkhamKnight0708 OP t1_jdl0yuf wrote

I'm basing the shape and looks off an impression I read. He said it was essentially a red Zero. Same size, shape, and overall look.

Crin could essentially position it as a different flavor of the same thing for those that don't like Harman. Perhaps it could fill the gap that the now defunct KZ partnership left? There's currently not a ~$50 IEF neutral tuned IEM from Crin

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scrappyuino678 t1_jdliix5 wrote

>There's currently not a ~$50 IEF neutral tuned IEM from Crin

Salnotes zero πŸ’€

As for the project red it seems like an interesting IEM but the bass shelf does look a bit lean, would wait for the final product though

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AshravenPB t1_jdmu1b1 wrote

Salnotes Zero isn’t true IEF neutral since it has a bass boost.

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scrappyuino678 t1_jdmv1tq wrote

>since it has a bass boost.

Then nothing is true IEF neutral with the ER3SE coming in closest in tuning πŸ’€

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Warpath- t1_jdqbflt wrote

7th acoustics proxima is pretty much it

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Not_FrenchBTW t1_jdv59jc wrote

they are the same case and driver setup as the zero from what i could tell. also heard them at canjam singapore and they are fantastci

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rhalf t1_jdlbumc wrote

In audio the best products are those that were iterated many times in a slow evolutionary manner.

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Amaakaams t1_jdmbjyf wrote

Keyword, slow you can do a lot of iterations by prototyping. When you offer a product for sale you assume you got it right. Any rush to iterate usually comes from 2 things. 1. It's a disappointment and doesn't perform like you expect. 2. The product has been out long enough that sales have leveled or dropped off and you think a new iteration will boost sales again.

Think Blessing vs Blessing 2 vs Blessing 3. The B2 came out within a year of the B1 because it was a disappointment. Whereas the B3 is coming out almost 3 years after the B2.

The Zero hasn't been out for very long. It's hardware has already been tuned by Crin. It's sold reasonably well. While it is entirely possible that it is either a new release or SE with a different tune based on the zero hardware. The typical reasons for something like this don't really apply.

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