aceCrasher t1_ja72cty wrote on February 27, 2023 at 9:13 AM

Reply to comment by CrelbowMannschaft in How do I listen for "detail" in music? by West-Cheek-156

Ok, but then please explain to me why when I EQ all of my Headphones to the Harman target, why does my HD800 still sound the most detailed?

My guess would be that the HD800s bigger soundstage spreads the individual sounds over a much larger area, making it vastly easier to discern individual sounds. The LCD2C sounds like a thick blob of sound in my head in comparison.

CrelbowMannschaft t1_ja72qzp wrote on February 27, 2023 at 9:19 AM

Sound stage from headphones is an illusion created by manipulating high frequencies the ear and brain use to locate sound sources. PEQ uses smoothed curves and is imprecise to each individual set. It would take maybe hundreds of lines of PEQ code to make two different headphones sound close enough to exactly the same for most human ears.

aceCrasher t1_ja72z2r wrote on February 27, 2023 at 9:22 AM

You are telling me that soundstage has nothing to do with the shape of the cop, reflections within the cup and at what angle the soundwaves are actually hitting my ear? If its ALL in the frequency response, you should be able to name me one IEM that produces a HD800 like soundstage. One of them must have similar high frequencies in the ear compared to an HD800 right?

CrelbowMannschaft t1_ja73dac wrote on February 27, 2023 at 9:28 AM

Hey, we're having a friendly conversation here.

The design of the cup is how the engineers manipulate the high frequencies that our brains and ears use to locate sound sources. Sound waves have only three characteristics: amplitude, which we hear as volume, frequency, which we hear as pitch, and start/stop times, which are easy for any device designed to vibrate 20,000 times per second. Sound has no other characteristics. But our ears and brains interpret sound waves in very complicated ways.

Edit: Just saw your stealth edit. I don't think you raised any new points for discussion with it.