flyedchicken t1_jadgp23 wrote on February 28, 2023 at 5:24 PM

Reply to comment by Bowernator in Hifiman Edition XS impressions from a newbie by Bowernator

I was 100% in the same boat. Loved the tuning & pretty much everything else about them except that one little flaw, really wanted to keep them but I just couldn't bring myself to.

With regards to burn in, this may be a little cynical of me but.. I somewhat believe that the reason companies suggest so much burn in time is to cut down on returns. As in, by the time the customer has taken the time to fully 'burn in' their equipment, most sites' return window will have closed. I don't have much to back that claim but it just seems to make sense. In my opinion 'burn in' is just our brains getting acclimated to different headphones' tuning. Sadly if you're already noticing it consistently, I don't see it going away unless you a.) EQ the bass waaaayyy down or b.) get enough hearing damage to not hear it anymore.

Bowernator OP t1_jadhmds wrote on February 28, 2023 at 5:30 PM

Yeah I may end up sending them back and not trying to get a replacement. Any suggestions on a similar headphone by chance? What are you currently listening to?

I definitely think that some companies suggest the long burn-in hours as a means to cut down on returns tbh. I don't necessarily subscribe to the idea of burning in headphones much, and would agree that it's our brains getting acclimated to the sound more so than the headphones breaking in.

flyedchicken t1_jadlz7o wrote on February 28, 2023 at 5:57 PM

That's the real frustrating thing. for sure good pair of XS exist out there, it just wasn't worth it to me to try a 3rd time.. Not trying to rain on your parade, I guess my bias just tends to make itself known at this point haha

After trying the XS I wound up with a pair of Moondrop Venus. Love em. They sound a lot like the XS but, cleaner somehow? When I went from the XS to these it almost made me feel like the XS have just a slight amount of bass bloat in comparison. Like vocals and things that live in the mids would be muddied down a bit by the XS, compared to sounding absolutely clear and "even" with the instruments through the Venus. The XS seemed to sort of apply their own sound to everything where to me the Venus let the song sound more how it was intended. Where the XS seemed to make everything sound equally 'big', some tracks can be a little more closed in or a little more open on the Venus, seemingly depending on how they were recorded. Playing Squad with the Venus I swear I can hear things happening farther away than ever before. But then if I put on Tom's Diner it sounds like Suzanne Vega is singing directly into my ears while the little ambient sounds in the track happen all around. Placement of sounds is better to me overall as is detail. I can hear things with these that I could not so much with the XS.

There was a little issue with mine when they showed up, one of the earcups had popped loose from the yoke thing on one side during shipping. But they're built so damn tough in comparison to anything else I've tried that I was able to just pop it back in and nothing was damaged or bent really at all. Absolutely zero problems with the sound, no weird buzzing or anything ever (unless it was something in the recording). Feel free to check my post history too, I posted somewhat of a review recently where I have a lot more to say.

Another vaguely similar headphone I can think of is the Monoprice M1570

Bowernator OP t1_jady9k7 wrote on February 28, 2023 at 7:15 PM

It is rather frustrating for sure. Finally find a pair that sound super good and they have QC issues... I may try my hand at replacement first before writing them off altogether. I did get them off Amazon, and I read another post stating they stopped selling them off Amazon UK due to so many returns. It's unfortunate you have to essentially play the Hifiman lottery to see if you get a good one or not. I wish there was a Sennheiser headphone that had this same sound signature.

I'll have to look into the Moondrop Venus! I'll give your post history a look as well. It's been quite the adventure so far just trying to find the "right" headphone for me. I was convinced the Edition XS was it until I got buzzing noises. Maybe I'll get lucky with them and if not, try something else. Thanks again for your suggestions and whatnot!