Pauoolk t1_j9g482f wrote on February 21, 2023 at 5:57 PM

I haven’t tried the M4 yet, but I owns the M3 since it came out. And I can tell you that using it wired is shit ! The sound isn’t as good at all and there are LOTS of parasite noise coming from the cable. Also, the headphone sounds horrendous without the noise-cancelling activated ! (For many years though, I considered it to be the best sounding headphones that I had ever tried, when ANC is activated at least. So I don’t even criticise the headphone as a whole, I loved it.)

So, if you need to activate the ANC to make it sound good, you need the headphones to be charged at all time, and then it is a bit stupid to use it wired because it won’t use less battery !

Which is the number 1 reason that made me stop buying ANC headphones, I became annoyed at having to charge it all the time for it to work. I bought a Hifiman Sundara a few months ago, and boy it is the best audio move I’ve done in years.. sound quality is far far better ! I can’t use it on my phone anymore though but that’s okay.

So I would say, if you are not about to use the M4 mainly outside, you’d rather buy a non-ANC headphone. With the same amount of money you can buy a headphone that sound 3x better (noise cancelling technology is pricy but useless at home)! 🤗

Memorycard1000 OP t1_j9g6alp wrote on February 21, 2023 at 6:10 PM

Thanks for that. 👍

Pauoolk t1_j9ge224 wrote on February 21, 2023 at 7:20 PM

But re-reading my comment i realise it is still quite very negative. So let me say again that the Sennheiser Momentum are truly amazing and, to my humble opinion, far better than its equals from other brands (Sony or Bose, basically, and others) !! If you want an ANC, this one is i think the best one you could get, sound-wise ! (i think for ANC it may be Sony, but the sound isn't that good).

On the M3, the bass were perfect, you could feel the physical rumble when it hits low notes, without taking all the space and getting over the mids like the Sony's :). Its sound signature is still what i qualify as my preference, quite Neutral, with some nice quality bass.

The soundstage was very impressive for a closed headphone i found ! And i would have definitely bought the M4 if i wasn't annoyed at the charging part. And i didn't use it outside, so ANC is useless for me. This is when i realised that paying 350 euros on a wired/Non ANC headphone actually might give you an even better one if you choose wisely.

But if you're going to use it outside, then don't hesitate one sec to go for the M4 ! Personally i owned the M1, then the M2 and the M3 😂 and these ones made me become addicted to good-sounding stuff. You'll probably end up buying an audiophile headphone as well in the future after the M4 anyway haha.. It's the effect it does to you 😂

Memorycard1000 OP t1_j9gg5sj wrote on February 21, 2023 at 7:39 PM

No, this is truly what I was after. Personal experience. 👍 I agree with everything you say here. I own the Hyper x cloud Alpha and the Sennheiser hd 599. I am tempted on upgrading the closed back side of things. Although I find the Alpha more than good enough to me I like new stuff too. 😁

Well. I feel I got the answers I wanted. After some thinking I am definitely going to put the money on pure wired closed back headphones if I upgrade my Alphas. Sound quality is nr 1. I use iems when I'm out and about so I don't really need that bluetooth. But it feels kinda cool with all the features. Not gonna lie. ☺️