StardustNovaSynchron t1_j9cbvo6 wrote on February 20, 2023 at 9:51 PM

Reply to comment by [deleted] in omg they sound like speakers by PlotTwistItWasMe

Can speaker systems have soundstage and solid imaging like a pair of headphones though ? Also with speakers to experience perfect soundstage you have to sit in an exact position right ?

[deleted] t1_j9ce5oq wrote on February 20, 2023 at 10:06 PM

>Can speaker systems have soundstage and solid imaging like a pair of headphones though

Yes, even a pair of 179€ Adam Audio T5V, angled at 30 - 45 degrees, will outperform ANY headphone, in regards to soundstage AND imaging! In comparison even the HD 800(S) feels like watching a 3D movie, without wearing the glasses! Be mindful though, soundstage and imaging is only one part of the experience and probably the least important one imho.

>Also with speakers to experience perfect soundstage you have to sit in an exact position right ?

Yes.

StardustNovaSynchron t1_j9cfdxu wrote on February 20, 2023 at 10:15 PM

I see but on a AKG K702 I get about 200 degree of surround sound ( basically from ear to ear, dont get much sounds coming from in front of me ), to replicate that on a speaker system surely you need a third channel behind you right ?

[deleted] t1_j9cip8m wrote on February 20, 2023 at 10:37 PM

You do NOT need a third speaker for the centre image. Dont you learn how stereo sound works in school? I know I did O.o

https://www.headphonesty.com/2022/01/what-is-the-difference-between-mono-and-stereo/

https://www.hifireport.com/mono-vs-stereo-the-complete-guide/

StardustNovaSynchron t1_j9cmjnl wrote on February 20, 2023 at 11:04 PM

Not for the centre image , i mean the coming from behind you channel , most of basic headphones arent capable of reproducing it ( they just reproduce left and right and centre image aka inside your head)

[deleted] t1_j9cnfih wrote on February 20, 2023 at 11:10 PM

Stereo has no "behind you" information.

That is a unique feature of surround sound. You can get that with a 5.1 or 7.1 speaker system and appropriate tracks or you can try binaural recordings on headphones like this one:

https://youtu.be/IUDTlvagjJA

StardustNovaSynchron t1_j9ct73z wrote on February 20, 2023 at 11:51 PM

Some recordings do though 😂, I listen to indian music and some recordings the singer is literally behind me singing to my neck or behind me to the right side , keep in mind that some of these songs are from 80s and i usually experience is with my Fidelio X2HR ( in my experience they feel like they have literally been tuned to sound like a 5 channel system and in some songs it's clearly evident )