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phidus t1_j6jkbne wrote

There’s no walking in this video.

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Mewpers t1_j6jlgnq wrote

Poor birds. Imagine having a potential 50-year lifespan, living in a cage with clipped wings, and this is all you have to look forward to. At least in this case they get to have some time outside.

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Segorath t1_j6jlhab wrote

This is the most stressful looking thing.

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Mr-Korv t1_j6jm0mx wrote

I feel like I have encountered this in a video game

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Y_N0T_Z0IDB3RG t1_j6jqmp9 wrote

I don't think he's walking them, I think he just really doesn't understand kites.

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danceswithtree t1_j6jqnhc wrote

I'm calling shenanigans. The potato quality video is to hide what's really going on. Those are fake birds attached to the guy somehow. The flapping is impressively real though. There is no way the birds can maintain flight going so slow that a clumsily running guy can keep up. FAKE.

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Edit: I find it funny that people are downvoting. Is it because I'm stating the obvious or because you think this is real?!

Another Edit: Thank you u/n-some for the link to the youtube video. I was wrong. Apparently flying parrots on a leash is possible. I'm impressed with the parrots and the owner.

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yummymoonfun t1_j6k1w54 wrote

here you are laughing, but he just wanted to fly🦜

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Rabid_Kiwi t1_j6k23mf wrote

That is…. I hate the parrot industry. Really they are beautiful and intelligent little wonders, that can’t be domesticated with out incurring physiological damage…. I know he loves them, but fam…. Damn if you love them then you want what’s best for them. That is being in a flock and finding a mate. Not promoting the capture and stunting of them…. Humans be assholes fam…

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jumpsteadeh t1_j6k5quz wrote

That's gotta be the best pirate I've ever seen.

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DocPeacock t1_j6k65xl wrote

This video might be fake, but I just last week had friends of mine saying they saw someone walking a couple macaws like this. Like the birds were flying and the owner was walking along. It sounded insane to me but I don't know why they would have lied about it.

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js4fn t1_j6k6wsb wrote

Help how do I train my parrots to stop pulling on leash

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gylez t1_j6kaf6x wrote

Agreed, but the silver lining is that we humans are amused by them and can keep them safely in our homes as pets - ensuring the survival of their species.

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The_bruce42 t1_j6kaohw wrote

This video has been reposted so many times it's down to 64-bit graphics

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Rabid_Kiwi t1_j6keksu wrote

No fam you can’t. That’s the point. Domesticated parrots are not like a cat or a dog. Even the ones born in captivity exhibit a clear difference in intelligence and behavior. They evolved not only physically, but socially, and physiology. They need the wild and they need a flock. You can never reintroduce a parrot after it has been domesticated. This is because the parrot life bonds emotionally with its owner, and thinks it’s flock is humans. It would be the same as Aliens abducting you as a small child, and raising you in isolation of other humans. So no. Most if not all of the ones you see in zoos and the like are rescues. Ask any educated avian biologist or Veterinarian and they will say the same. They can not proliferate in captivity with out serous issues for their long term survival. There are a few trying to reintroduce with intermediate success, but you have to start when they are younger. Once they completely mature the pattern is set.

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Mewpers t1_j6kh3ib wrote

Birds with clipped wings can still use them and flutter short distances. They just can’t meaningfully fly. The sentiment still holds regardless of whether Reddit videos are real.

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Chris20nyy t1_j6kjrzq wrote

>Edit: I find it funny that people are downvoting. Is it because I'm stating the obvious or because you think this is real?!

They're downvoting you because you made this cockamamie argument about how it can't be real, when I fact it is real.

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kdanham t1_j6koerj wrote

These are macaws, just a friendly fyi. Good to learn a new thing everyday! Cockatoos and macaws both are mistaken as parrots all the time, like turtles and tortoises.

Edit: well fuck me sideways, it's my turn to learn something(s) new today, thanks!

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Rabid_Kiwi t1_j6koq7q wrote

Yes that is why buying one is against most international laws, and it is heavily restricted to research and conversation. But if ever able to be released it will never be the real Spix. It’s the same difference between a dog and a wolf. By breading them in captivity we fundamentally change them. Different genes are passed on when organisms are in different environments. So they will evolve to something else. The real Spix died off a few decades ago from poaching for pets, and habitat destruction. Now we keep a few alive to sate a guilty conscience. But screw it fam, y’all don’t want to hear it so I’m just going to bounce. Love ya fam.

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CianuroConLove t1_j6kqk2d wrote

You know, that same argument can somehow be used for racism. Some humans in x part of the world are less because their genes are not as original or pure because they are more mixed or whatever…

For me, if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it’s a damn duck.

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Rabid_Kiwi t1_j6ksjyi wrote

Really? Racism huh? So that’s how you silent your opponents. By implying they haters. That’s messed up fam. Also last I checked no one is killing off every human except the ones in jail… also in order for you to think that you have to think that there are different species of humans as well. Or did you not think about what you were saying? Just looking to bash on someone who has a different opinion than you do. Well fam no, no reasonable educated adult is going to read it and think that. Only some one immature and only looking to cause pain, because someone dared to question their subjective value on life.

Grow up fam. Love ya.

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CianuroConLove t1_j6kst88 wrote

I don’t think you are my opponent or a hater.

It was just an observation.

I mean a lot of animals kill their own species and they kill other animals.. you arguments are kinda dumb and empty lol

Edit to say: dolphins rape each other, so that means it’s ok to rape? A lot of animals kill each other and younglings or abandon their offspring… so if they do it it’s ok for humans to do it?

I’m just trying to get you to understand that your analogies as you are presenting them, don’t work. And if a spix is still alive and we can someday release it back into the wild, that’s a win.

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wolff000 t1_j6kt6rt wrote

Not at all. I had a rescue parrot and you are doing them no favors. My dude was too old to get rehabbed for release so we just made his life as best as possible till he passed at 68. Parrots need constant companionship and stimulation. They get depressed, angry, and even psychotic living in captivity. Their lungs don't even function at 100% without flying most of the day. The same muscles that help them fly help them breathe. If you really love parrots leave them in the wild.

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ironhead_mule t1_j6kt6uv wrote

I liked the title last time it was posted better: pretty fly for a white guy.

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DeliverySoggy2700 t1_j6ku7wf wrote

Be careful doing this. I used to take my dogs out sprinting all the time full speed (still do just not as fast) until I took a nasty fall. Luckily the dogs were not injured in the slightest and my meat crayoned legs healed overtime

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landonburner t1_j6kuk72 wrote

Looking at the title I was expecting something completely different

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Rabid_Kiwi t1_j6kukbq wrote

Bull shit. You know what you were implying. Also applying human ethics to animals behaviors is how the world got this fucked up to start with. Some mother spiders get eaten by their young. Nature is brutal fam, why these animals evolved the way they did. We aren’t the judges of their societies or behaviors. You know what, fuck it fam. You have a good life. I’m done with your petty nonsense.

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JoieDe_Vivre_ t1_j6l0lie wrote

Holy fuck. That’s my hometown. We love parrot guy.

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NeatlyCritical t1_j6l3shu wrote

What it's like to walk pets in a universe where all water is redbull energy drink.

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SoSorryItsTheMoops t1_j6l69yf wrote

The dog/wolf comparison isn’t quite right. Dogs were domesticated over tens of thousands of years via selective breeding for traits that suited a peridomestic lifestyle. The Spix macaws that were reintroduced are the progeny of a handful of adults who’ve been in captivity for less than a generation, some of whom were likely wild-caught themselves. Is that a genetic bottleneck? Yes. Is it selection for pet traits? Not remotely. Plus, macaws regularly form mixed-species flocks, so their “culture” is perhaps not irretrievably lost if there are Illiger’s macaws in the area.

Edit: a word

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invisible-bug t1_j6l9hpo wrote

This comment really makes me think that you have no experience with birds like these. Most of them self harm when kept in captivity. They get bored and codependent and jealous.

It's not all bad. They cuddle. They sing with you. They're funny. They play. But they're very hard to keep happy. It's unethical to keep them as a pet unless you properly know what you're doing and have some serious time and space to provide everything they need.

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Dannyboy765 t1_j6ldn1m wrote

We've got a guy in my hometown that does the same thing. He's the parrot guy 🦜

Oh, and we have this crutch lady who walks around with crutches. She doesn't use them, she just walks with them at her side and paddles in the air with them

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LongBongJohnSilver t1_j6leupq wrote

I've helped breed birds most of my life, and I've concluded they aren't very good pets. They develop romantic bonds to people that can't (shouldn't) come to fruition. It's one thing to keep an aviary, but all these people doing what amounts to foreplay with them isn't what's best.

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gylez t1_j6lf1vy wrote

Funny how you got all that from my obvious and true statement.

My parrot has been with me for 21 years. He’s never harmed himself and is a quite happy and healthy bird. He’s fully flighted, has a cage but is never closed in; he prefers his java wood tree stand. He has free roam of our whole house with a perch in every room.

Like it or not, people will continue to breed and keep these creatures as pets. I would never support unethical trade, nor seek out a bird from a breeder. All the parrots I’ve cared for over the years have been rescues.

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gylez t1_j6lfcte wrote

I’ve had my rescue bird for 21 years. He’s fully flighted and in great physical and emotional health.

Rehabilitation is not an option for most parrots that have been pets their whole life. Someone has to take care of them.

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invisible-bug t1_j6lgppz wrote

>safely in our homes as pets

That's what I take issue with. It's not true. They're often not safe because people don't understand that smart birds make bad pets.

Nothing you said, referencing YOUR good experience with YOUR well adjusted parrot, makes my statements untrue. They're very difficult to care for. They need constant stimulation that most people can't provide. They need to be taught boundaries that most pets don't really require. They hold grudges against people and can attack them - attacks which can easily require a trip to the ER. Sometimes they become so possessive of a person that they attack anyone who comes near or visits. Children and pets can be included.

I also fail to see how people keeping them as pets helps their population in the wild in any way.

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DirtyProtest t1_j6lgxey wrote

He doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.

I 100% agree the wild bird trade is abhorrent and is driven by people buying these birds. Captive bred birds... well its all down to the owner.

I have a grey and she is a wonderfully happy bird. Can be N absolute dick when she wants but most parrots can.

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MetforminShits t1_j6lhrpd wrote

How can you tell that they aren't flying well? I thought this video was nice because he wasn't just cooping them up.

But I have seen others where people have a big ol' set up in their yard so the birbs can freely fly

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gylez t1_j6lian6 wrote

Safely for the humans

And that’s because I never said anything about helping their population in the wild? I said, “ensuring their survival as a species.”

silver lining: A hopeful or comforting prospect in the midst of difficulty. - aka - my whole statement was about finding a positive in an unfortunate situation.

Their numbers, like all creatures we use for entertainment/agriculture, are much higher than nature would ever allow them to reach w/o our interference. Thus my jokingly insouciant silver lining.

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leolugosi t1_j6ljxti wrote

I’ve seen fish taking for a walk but a parrots flying, WTF it’s this world going to? …

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Chickennoodo t1_j6llg43 wrote

And that concludes my slideshow on how I walk my parrots. Could someone grab the lights?

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Chavarlison t1_j6lmjsf wrote

Build a harness that goes on an e-bike. Ride around. Bonus points if you make it look like they are pulling you forward with their flying.

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JablesRadio t1_j6lq56j wrote

I've adopted a Blue and Gold macaw, she has been a part of the family for 25+ years. Sadly, she doesn't take well to the jackets used by other caretakers to let them fly solo until they're hungry and want back in the house.

The best we can do is put her on a short "leash" which is wrapped around one of her legs and to our hand and take of on the atv as fast as we possibly can: about a quarter mile, one way, both ways. As soon as I get into a slow roll forward she takes off. I get up to speed and she can fly as fast as she could in the wild. Being a rescue, she hasn't had a lot of practice but her demeanor afterwards is pure happy excitement.

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At any given time she may try to bite me (not hard, enough to show she doesn't want me at the moment. She bonded with my mom so she is a little prickly towards anyone else). I digress, as soon as we get back to the house after a fly walk she drinks her water, eats a small snack and becomes the most lovey dovey, cuddle machine you've known in your entire life.

Her name is coco and she is quite literally a member of the family. I love that bird.

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saveable t1_j6lsza7 wrote

I remember responding to this same gif several years ago and confidently proclaiming that it must be fake and then being sent to a similar video. Just mind blowing. I wonder why people keep reposting the gif when there are videos available.

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jamminjordan96 t1_j6ltpnj wrote

This is genuinely so sweet. How many people keep their birds locked in their house 24/7

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mykb10 t1_j6lw8kd wrote

Not what I was expecting, but what I needed.

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bleunt t1_j6lwybh wrote

Something about keeping birds as pets doesn't sit right with me. We can't offer them a life close to how it should be.

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whizzwr t1_j6m1tf7 wrote

I say thats a good exercise.

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sfhitz t1_j6m1ui9 wrote

Can you keep them like pigeons where they're pretty much free but live on your roof? Not looking for an excuse to get any, just curious.

Edit: not actually sure that's how pigeons work either but I just watched a movie where it was.

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DryPenguin t1_j6m2t3f wrote

Holy shit this is a Reddit post of my home area. I see this guy all the time, I’ve spoken with him, he’s awesome.

Wow

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BrazenNormalcy t1_j6m3yul wrote

I've never seen a man in more dire need of a bicycle in my entire life.

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Raelah t1_j6m4o9v wrote

There is a huge difference between people who buy from breeders and people who rescue parrots. There are so many parrots that are in need of homes.

You don't know where he acquired those birds. But you do know this guy's dedication to his birds. Dude is sprinting down the sidewalk so his birds can get some quality exercise and activity.

I've rescued parrots before and plan on doing it again once I'm in a position to provide them with the proper care.

If you really love them and want one, rescue one.

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Bashamo257 t1_j6mambs wrote

Good on him for letting his birds stretch their wings.

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Gently_Rough_ t1_j6mh51g wrote

Yes, but just like any species they are at risk of becoming invasive. Israel has a major issue with aggressive Drara parrots who were let loose and multiplied and have driven out many local bird varieties in the past 30 years or so. Invasive species are no joke.

That said you don’t need an excuse for having a bird much like you wouldn’t need one for having a dog or a cat. Parrots love their family. They are warm and affectionate pets and just as you wouldn’t lock a dog in a cage for life, you shouldn’t do this to a bird.

My parrot was my closest companion growing up and his cage was only rarely closed. He preferred staying there by choice and we would often go on trips together. When I got hospitalized he got depressed and was thrilled and happy when we were reunited. Today I have a rabbit at home that’s also free and is living his best life at 11 years old.

The important bit is to invest in the relationship as much as you would with a dog or another family member depending on you, and to not get a pet blindly without learning a lot about them and meeting some to understand what they’re like.

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missredbra t1_j6mhpw7 wrote

This seems incredibly selfish on his part. Those bird don't belong on a fucking leash

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PantsIsDown t1_j6mlry8 wrote

Why isn’t he flying them like kites over his shoulder? This looks so stressful for his back, it’s like he’s running with puppets.

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wolff000 t1_j6mrbcr wrote

Sorry no. Stop trying to make wild animals pets. They are not domesticated and never will be. You can literally never get the animal the exercise it needs. Wild parrots fly hundreds of miles a day and live in colonies of hundreds if not thousands of other parrots. How do you think you can possibly recreate any of that in your house? You claim to love a wild animal then keep it in captivity. Your arguments are the exact ones used to justify keeping chimps and tigers as pets. These animals will always be better off outside not in your house.

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wolff000 t1_j6ms1j0 wrote

Technically, yes if you live in an area that has the right weather you technically could keep them that way.

However pigeons are domesticated. And happily live in a coop. Most parrots are not going to live in something like that. Instinct will drive them to go make a nest. You would have a few that hang around for food but most would just fly off at some point.

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Odd_Status_9326 t1_j6msxb9 wrote

If it was talking parrots, they would be named DeSantis and Trump.

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MisogynyisaDisease t1_j6n3e7k wrote

Theyre intelligent, and can become depressed or even go insane while in captivity.

If you got placed in a cage for years with nobody to talk to, and you couldn't go for a walk by yourself or find love, how exactly would you fare?

Sure, there are lots of good bird owners out there who do their best. But for every good bird owner, I knew 5 more growing up who just threw a sheet over their way-to-small bird cage to shut up their parrot.

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MisogynyisaDisease t1_j6n4e07 wrote

Thank you for being sane about this.

I've always wanted an African Grey, but I won't do it until I'm in a position to give a rescue the most time and best exercise and living environment I can.

I'll stick with dogs, who are perfectly happy to just snuggle and go on runs/hikes and chew the countless rawhides I've gifted them.

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Rabid_Kiwi t1_j6n6oby wrote

https://www.forbes.com/sites/grrlscientist/2021/10/18/highly-intelligent-pet-parrots-most-likely-to-damage-their-feathers/?sh=793e11b058b8

https://www.purdue.edu/uns/html4ever/2005/051221.Garner.parrots.html

I can do this all day. They need the flock, with out it they bond to one person. They can not be alone, they need a companion 24/7. When this is a human, and the human leaves for the day, it causes separation anxiety that turns in to mental illness. They will then start feather-pluck, and become progressively more hostile and violent.

They can’t be alone, it’s part of their evolution. That is why they mate for life. That is why you really need a team of people working with them. To stop them from ever being alone, also to prevent them from bonding with one human. Bonding with a human is bad because they think that they are human. They will stop wanting to socialize with other birds and primarily socialize with one human. Think of cray teenage obsession. Some even think that the feather-pluck is to make them look more human.

Most of them have personalities that lean towards vanity, appearance is very important to them. Think “small town what would the neighbors think” turned up to 11. Because again they are very social creatures, why they need the flock. Good keepers know to tell the birds and then groom them before guests or new people come. Yes they are that self aware!

This is why they can’t be raised in homes, as pets. They need open space to fly, they need a flock of their own kind, they need little to no human interaction. That is what they need. If you want to help volunteer/donate/create good bird sanctuaries near you. People who will train you and teach you how to give it the best life you can. If we invest the money used on them as house pets, into bird sanctuaries and rehabilitation. End the practice of them as pets, then we can really target poachers.

You just got to accept that we damage them any time we have contact with them. Because we don’t understand them, and they are very complex.

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ButterBohne t1_j6n7j5g wrote

That guy really should be arrested for animal abuse...

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Gonzag t1_j6nr64i wrote

😂😂😂😂😂

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Gently_Rough_ t1_j6o0ckk wrote

Mine was outside whenever he wanted. He’d spent a few hours every day outside. All living things have needs, and tigers’ needs are very, very different from a parrot’s.

Exercise or not, birds that are well cared for can be more challenged intellectually, can be entertained and happy, have relationships that are meaningful, and be much healthier than their wild cousins.

In the end if you believe your border collie is getting as much exercise as he would in the wild you’re delusional, but quality of life isn’t just about exercise.

Wild animals require special care, many of them definitely cannot be cared for in urban environments. Parrots, who actually thrive in urban environments, can without a doubt be cared for when born and raised with care.

In the end all animals are wild to a degree, whether it’s your goldfish, snake, iguana, parrot, hedgehog, rat, cat or dog. To think as a human you can put a line and say “this is wild” and “this is pet” is idiotic. All are wild. All have needs. All pets are bound by humans. In some cases we can provide a good life for them. In some, better. Take a domesticated pig and let them roam for a year and see how “domesticated” they are.

Be kind to animals, as you are one too.

Not that it matters, my parrot was a rescue as is my rabbit. I am very much against those who capture wild birds for profit or those who support them.

People don’t seem to mind the front page and upvote the next gif of that guy playing with his duck as if that’s any different. Y’all just brand yourselves and hold double standards for the same topics.

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Gently_Rough_ t1_j6o11fj wrote

They shouldn’t be alone. My parrot was a rescue whose previous owner had died. What we did was to introduce him to another female as well as ensure he had companionship to more than one bond.

Believe me I know a lot about the impact depression has on birds, and that bond with a human is just showing what sensitive and loving animals they are. Would it not be true for dogs to be completely broken when their owner dies? They might not die from heartbreak - but how does that answer my question? The flame was that physiological damage is an ESSENTIAL part of having a bird as a pet, and I wasn’t clear on what that meant. This isn’t what you answered.

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MisogynyisaDisease t1_j6o59ed wrote

Seeing as they aren't domesticated, and you're basically rewiring them to live solo and not nest in large broods. Yeah, I'd say it's pretty essential. There's no getting around it, there is a cruelty element to keeping wild animals as pets. You not being intentionally cruel doesn't really change that.

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Rabid_Kiwi t1_j6o7vix wrote

The stress and anxiety from being away from the flock. The restrictions on movement and stunted social development. You need multiple birds not just two we are talking a flock. They need their community, and more room and freedom then a house or a yard. Just the same as if you took a two newborns to be raised by gorillas. Those children would have severe developmental and mental issues. That is what you are doing to them when you keep them as pets. When breeding in captivity the traits most needed for reintroduction are not passed on. They are less intelligent, and more prone to mental disorders than their wild counter parts. Because again they evolved with a flock, their very existence is the flock. They need it for social reinforcement, to show off how good they look, to feel safe from perdition, because they evolved that way.

I was trying to sugarcoat it but it’s like this. You can feed a kid all candy and never make them go to school for 18 years. Yeah the kid is happy, for now, but it’s not what the kid needs. Think of all the issues that kid is going to have. They never learned self discipline, how to act around others, that there are others their age, limited communication, no chance at finding a mate, not even able to be accepted in society.

Ok so understanding what they need, and realizing that not giving them what they need stunts their development. Makes them more prone to mental disorders such as depression, anxiety, separation anxiety, PTSD, aggression, and probably many more. Probably (imho) to serve as a incentive in the wild to move on and search for a new flock, if ever isolated. But that last one is just my crack pot speculation, so grain of salt.

The research showing this is so prevalent you can just google it to find it. I don’t think you all realize how incredibly intelligent and conscious these birds really are. They have very good problem solving, very good memory, and very good rationality. They learn our language fam, this tells us they have their own language. They understand language fam, as in the concept. They understand that they need to communicate with us, they recognize we use language, they teach themselves our language. I’m not talking about them speaking to us, I’m talking mainly about us speaking to them. You need to understand they deliberately do this. It is a choice they make, and they can do it wicked fast.

Ok you take that type of intelligence, that evolved to be communal, and take it from its societal grounds and it environment. You are going to cause developmental issues and mental illness if born in captivity, or mental illness if captured. Same as us fam, only their social instincts are turned up to 11.

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timmywiff t1_j6oawmq wrote

How incredibly depressing for those birds

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