LonliestMonroni t1_jchjgsm wrote
Reply to comment by camelCasing in Walking with wagging tail through the woods by lnfinity
Wow, there really is someone who will argue against anything on reddit.
Are you just ignoring the environmental impact from factory farms? Also, every vegan I've known know are environmentally conscience people that wear naturally derived clothing. I'd bet money that the vast majority of vegans choose that way of explicitly because how destructive and harmful the meat industry has become. Obviously there are people who are vegan just for the moral high ground, but judging an entire group based off the minority is objectively stupid.
camelCasing t1_jchu8p3 wrote
When a group drives environmental damage on an industrial scale while claiming to be environmentally conscious I'm gonna judge it. Sorry if you feel like that's an insult to your vegan friends or whatever.
TheBirthing t1_jchwknb wrote
The 'industrial scale' of faux leather is a drop in the fucking bucket compared to animal agriculture.
To say nothing of the fact that not every vegan rocks around in a vegan leather jacket. It's just a really shit example to cherry pick.
camelCasing t1_jchzjgr wrote
It's just one of many. You're wasting your time, you're no more going to convince me than I am you.
TheBirthing t1_jci3uha wrote
Not trying to convince you of anything, just pointing out that if there's so many more examples I would have thought you could use a better one as the flagship of your argument.
LonliestMonroni t1_jcjrf3u wrote
In addition to the other comment, half the reason I'm arguing against you is so when people see your lukewarm take they can see how weak that position is
camelCasing t1_jclbfgw wrote
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LonliestMonroni t1_jcm2293 wrote
Potassium?
LonliestMonroni t1_jcjr1l6 wrote
It's not insulting since you're argument is weaker than a vegan on a fast
camelCasing t1_jclbivw wrote
Yet here you are whining more anyway
LonliestMonroni t1_jcm217k wrote
Oh yeah, my text based comment dunking on you is definitely "the making of a long, high-pitched cry or sound"
camelCasing t1_jcm5sxu wrote
You're still doing it.
goofytoes t1_jciqzly wrote
There is no environmental damage vegans do that nonvegans don't do as well, if not more. I say this as an omnivore. Your average person does not buy a lot of real leather, probably takes your average person several years even decades to buy a cow's worth. Even when vegans opt for plastic leather it's really not gonna be all that much.
There's no such thing as ethical consumption anymore. Just practices that reduce harm as much as feasibly possible. Veganism is overall great for the environment even if every vegan alternative isn't ideal for it. People who get all pissy about vegans are just mad that someone is acting "better" than them even if that isn't the attitude most vegans hold.
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