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Tenalp t1_iycxkab wrote

Reply to comment by MaineJackalope in The balls on some of these studios… by Cazineer

If it's not yet released, it's not a game. It's an idea. An idea that people will be defending until 2082.

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MaineJackalope t1_iycyj1r wrote

Nah, it's definitely a game and the one I play most, no one comes and argues that Valheim and other early access games aren't actually games before they release. They're games for sure, they're just not finished games, but I don't need developers arbitrarily deciding the game is done to have a ton of fun in it.

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Tenalp t1_iycywtx wrote

I must be mistaken. Is Star Citizen not the space game that spent years and years in development selling ships while still not released in any capacity? Did it (or whatever I'm thinking of) finally come out? If so, I rescind my initial comment.

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MaineJackalope t1_iyd0xzc wrote

It's been playable in some way shape or form for many years, I started playing it in April of 2020, it's currently on Patch 3.17.4, where 3.0 is when they added the first 1/8 scale planet. There's now 4 planets (two earth likes, a city planet, and gas giant) each with a fledged out City with a combined 12 moons that are all completely explorable and have some points of interests like caves, trading outposts, mineable resources, and shipwrecks, dozens of space stations and asteroid fields. Mission and reputation system. A prison for criminal players to spend some lock up time in when caught, and a bunch more.

Here's a marketing video they put out last year, it makes the world seem a bit more loved in than it currently is as it uses alot of older marketing vids, but it's all engine and the kind of stuff you can do. https://youtu.be/m-Rz5PTMuaw

Here's a more balanced video from one of the community's content creators that cuts the bullshit https://youtu.be/Or_w4wEi-I8

I easily put 8 plus hours a week into playing it though, either just enjoying it as an immersive space sim or with my group doing Piracy trying to rob other players. Still a ton to do, and the Developer is the most transparent I've ever seen, not only sharing a roadmap of future features but also a progress tracker that shows what individual teams in their now 700+ employee studio are actively working on and will be working on down the line

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LordPollax t1_iyeei1b wrote

So, in other words, you are an unpaid playtester and the game has not been finished yet? And is long overdue based on fundraising campaigns? Got it!

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IvoryMFD t1_iyf66j4 wrote

I dabble in star citizen and I'm with you on this. I enjoy it but it's such a cash grab. They pour resources into shiny new systems and charge high prices for ships to go with those systems but then never finish the systems. I'm not convinced that this isn't their intended business model. They make so much money doing it. Edit to add that they even sell ship concepts. You can spend about 2k for a ship that will maybe release in a year or two... but probably not

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