you-are-not-yourself t1_iyexor2 wrote on November 30, 2022 at 9:56 PM

Reply to comment by Kwauhn in Kill Bowser. by Ghimzzo

Their denial of attribution

Halvus_I t1_iyexvsb wrote on November 30, 2022 at 9:57 PM

Attribution is noise.

you-are-not-yourself t1_iyeztpb wrote on November 30, 2022 at 10:11 PM

Not to an original author. Lack of attribution is plagiarism, an unethical act. To say nothing of OP denying this when questioned.

Halvus_I t1_iyf02nf wrote on November 30, 2022 at 10:13 PM

> Lack of attribution is plagiarism, an unethical act.

Depends wholly on context. Should parody have to attribute? No.

Further, your definition is wrong. Plagiarism is a form of fraud. Lack of attribution alone is not fraud. You have to affirmatively claim the work as your own.

you-are-not-yourself t1_iyf0fjj wrote on November 30, 2022 at 10:15 PM

Sure, parody's different, and public domain isn't covered by copyright so it's not like laws are being broken, but to have the original commenter show up here & OP deny attribution to their face seems like ethical misconduct.

Edit: Also this is clearly not a parody of the comment, it's a rip of the comment.

you-are-not-yourself t1_iyf0ovf wrote on November 30, 2022 at 10:17 PM

Regarding your edit concerning plagarism, I would direct you to the Wikipedia entry on attribution:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attribution_(copyright)

> a work in the public domain, which is any not covered by copyright, has no such attribution requirement... this is the distinguishing factor between plagiarism, which is not a crime, but an unethical act, and copyright infringement, which may be a cause of legal action from the author.

A comment obviously has no copyright attached to it, but it is still a work in the public domain, and claiming it as one's own is the clinical definition of plagarism.

Edit: Also this is clearly not a parody of the comment, it's a direct rip of the comment.

Halvus_I t1_iyf1dop wrote on November 30, 2022 at 10:22 PM

Im going to be frank with you, i have very dim view of current ip law, copyright in particular, so I am generally unsympathetic to those that leverage these systems. Its a whole lot of concern over very first world problems. We would be more artful if we abolished copyright altogether, given our current technological point in time.

you-are-not-yourself t1_iyf1ypu wrote on November 30, 2022 at 10:26 PM

Thanks for that. I'm of the view that copyright systems, and many other legal systems, imperfectly reflect morality and people should try to follow the ethical spirit of these systems even in situations where they're absent. But your perspective is definitely a valid lens as well.