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Ghegzery t1_ixlt3aj wrote

I think you are wrong. It's about its complexity, and variety of possibilities, which, if you choose the wrong one, you will find yourself in difficulty going past a certain point, but at the same time there is no wrong choice.

I bet none of the ER players finished the game without googling something at least once.

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Ferry83 t1_ixlwnki wrote

You made my point 100% :)

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Ghegzery t1_ixly53n wrote

>only applies to lovers of the souls genre

Maybe I should've said that this is not true... it's more like a combination of witcher, skyrim and some souls game. I personally don't like dark souls, I really love witcher, and I love elden ring more, it hits on another level.

I am not criticizing your comment, I upvoted it, I just don't agree about the souls games lovers. It's definitely not fun, at all, it's a very serious game, maybe too serious or cringe, but its complexity and logic/math requirements are almost close to the Dota 2 gameplay. IMO ER is an open world masterpiece, totally deserve the price and it has little to do with the linear stuff from souls games (I never played any other souls game, but I know those are linear from my brother).

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Ferry83 t1_ixm0l1d wrote

Cool, obviously there is always a turning point in a game series where it pulls in new players.

I personally couldn't get through any of the GoW games.. but the 2018 and 2022 games are amongst the best games i've played.

Elden ring is already an exception as it pulled in a LOT more players, assumingly and without any proof.. I expect most people to sort of get a Souls "lite" game..

I think Demon Souls on the PS5 also pulled in a lot of people into the genre..

But seeing the numbers on people that won't even get halfway through ER.. we can say it sold really well... but also a lot of people regretted the purchase..

If I look at 2nd hand availability here in the Netherlands.. it's amazingly high and prices are very low. a very generic search on a 2nd hand site notices that the Elden Ring is being offered around 20% times more than Ratchet and Clank.

And both games offered for around 30-35 euro..

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Ghegzery t1_ixm1jlu wrote

I got it because the name George RR Martin came up somewhere, saying to myself "this can't be wrong.. it just can't, that guy is brilliant", and once I got into the story (after 130+ hours, because it was overwhelming) it hit me and I couldn't let it go for another 200+ hours. It is indeed a good game, but indeed not for everyone.

And, if you are right, they did something awful to pull in players for profit, I don't like these marketing shenanigans.

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Ferry83 t1_ixm46l7 wrote

It's a quality game..

But so is fortnite.. and you either hate it or love it.

Minecraft, same story.

Spider-man... amazing game (pun intended) but if you're no superhero fan.. you're not playing it just because its a good game.

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I'd say the biggest issue with ER is the speed of the game and the punishing combat. And repetitive gameplay.. but to some people that's just exactly what they are looking for.

I'm a tad older... I pick most of my games with care.. to make sure that I get the most out of my time and I prefer games that I can finish in a decent time.

And it seems I have enough games / upcoming games to last until spring.

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Ghegzery t1_ixm4lqw wrote

Well, you're right. Happy gaming, good or bad, doesn't matter. In my country they say something like "taste is something you don't discuss about (or discuss on??)"

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