Spaced-Cowboy t1_je7m3hj wrote on March 30, 2023 at 12:09 AM

Reply to comment by Strange_Compote_4592 in You ever notice how the brotherhoods who get stuff done...all seem to be the ones who are splinters? by CevicheLemon

Lyon’s is one of the worst military leaders in the series. Like he’s a good guy and altruistic. But he’s absolutely awful at leading others. He tries to act like a police force in DC when he doesn’t have the resources to do so. He got many of his recruits killed. Failed to stop a mutiny and allowed them to leave with a huge amount of his own troops and gear. And has his forces scattered around the wasteland protecting nonessential positions they can barely hold with almost no way to recoup their losses. Hell even his own men say so.

Lyons is the reason why so many of his people got killed.

Strange_Compote_4592 t1_je8qt3o wrote on March 30, 2023 at 6:09 AM

While I don't entirely disagree. I still think Lyons was a good leader. The Outcasts would leave no matter what. If Lyons didn't let them go with peace, there would be unnecessary bloodshed. And, also, keeping ANYONE alive in the worst place of post-war America is wishful thinking. I don't think any military one was prepared to Capital Wasteland. Even schmuck like Maxon (the older one).

FO4's Maxon has it easy with Enclave and Supermutant threads defeated by Lone Wanderer and Sarah respectively.