ElectricTrees29 t1_j5i9wum wrote
Does anyone really care? It's the undisputed leader and unchallenged rival at its price point.
AthearCaex t1_j5ifpz2 wrote
Some people just want to keep pushing for a steam deck 2 when the things been out for a year. Like the steam deck is a whole gen ahead of the switch. There's almost no reason for vavle to upgrade it for a few years. Maybe minor changes but I don't see them making like a version with a high end laptop steam deck version.
kevinbranch t1_j5ir5ya wrote
I don’t think being one generation ahead of the switch is anything to brag about. It’s more than that.
WizogBokog t1_j5pzvrh wrote
It emulates switch games better than the switch can play them, it's 4 or 5 gens ahead of the switch, lmao.
AkirIkasu t1_j5v8dal wrote
Honestly, it's more like three+ generations ahead of the switch.
People forget that Breath of the Wild was developed first and foremost for the Wii U, which was roughly as powerful as an Xbox 360.
BeThePrawn t1_j5j6ug8 wrote
Is there a steam deck 2 in the works?
IncredibleGonzo t1_j5k63kz wrote
Yes, they’ve been pretty clear that there’ll be future models eventually. They’ve indicated that it’ll be quite a while before we see one with a different performance level, though, they’ve suggested the next model will focus on screen and battery life. Whether that’s a proper second gen (replacement at comparable price points) or more like the Switch OLED, a more premium model that slots in above the current ones, remains to be seen.
AthearCaex t1_j5jsaru wrote
Steam has not announced anything and every news outlet has been theorycrafting there's one but let's be honest it's the same people who have been saying the switch pro will be out for the past 5 years so take that with a huge grain of salt.
oldkingcoles t1_j5kilnb wrote
I mean just like anything that is a big success isn’t there always a new model in the works?
I work in a phone store and people always ask is there going to be an iPhone 14,15 whatever the next number. Like yea ? There is going to be an iPhone 40, why would they stop ?
The steam deck is obviously newer and not as established as the iPhone but I would assume with how popular the deck is steam is going to keep them coming. Not only do they make revenue on the deck but also get steam into more hands as the price of admission is much less than a full PC
TiempoPuntoCinco t1_j5jql9j wrote
I'd honestly say it's 2-3 gens ahead of switch. Realistically, Switch games behave and look like PS2 games in higher res.
Youvebeeneloned t1_j5kdl6o wrote
>Switch games behave and look like PS2 games in higher res.
Dude I'll have what you are having cause holy shit are you smoking some crack there....
thinwhiteduke1185 t1_j5k70nt wrote
Yeah, no they don't. You have some rose colored glasses regarding what PS2 games actually looked like.
Chao78 t1_j5k84kf wrote
No kidding. PS2 is -rough-.
Art direction counted for a hell of a lot more too, which I vastly prefer. I don't care about ultra-high-poly photoreal stuff, give me things that are aesthetically pleasing.
TiempoPuntoCinco t1_j5k7gp3 wrote
Shadow of colossus HD (not the Bluepoint remake) for the PS3 looks better than almost any switch game outside of some first party titles. I obviously wasn't being 100% literal.
Youvebeeneloned t1_j5kdndb wrote
No you are just completely batshit....
AthearCaex t1_j5kvnt0 wrote
They probably just saw a couple pixel games and went "The switch looks like shit." The switch even in handheld is 720p and 1080p docked. The PS2 did 480p MAX. There might not be a difference in their eyes. Anything not 4k60FPS is garbage to some people
IFailedTuringTestAMA t1_j5knhjb wrote
It’s 2-3 gens ahead of switch but switch is at least 2-3 generations ahead of PS2, probably more.
I doubt a PlayStation 2 would be able to run Witcher 3 on any settings. It’s pretty amazing how far we’ve come with handheld devices.
lfmantra t1_j5lp5v0 wrote
Bro, the ps2 had GTA 3. The switch runs Breath of the Wild and Mario Odyssey.
TiempoPuntoCinco t1_j5mks7j wrote
PS3 could run those. Switch is like Ps2.75 then. It still keeps surprising me how awful it runs games. The ugliness of Assassins Creed 4 made me sell our switch. Wife and I are very happy with Steam Deck.
lfmantra t1_j5mscvy wrote
Nah, it really couldn’t, but there’s no point in arguing bc you’re weird
ensoniq2k t1_j5j9id3 wrote
I certainly don't. I'm using my deck around 90% of the time to play Brotato. It's perfectly up to the task and has nice battery runtime. I don't know what people expect but I for one am glad I can run nearly all my PC games on a handheld and not being limited to DOS emulation on ARM and the likes.
asyrin25 t1_j5ii1qd wrote
This was true for a hot minute.
You can get better in a laptop now. Especially at the $650 price point.
iHazOver9000 t1_j5iodjv wrote
I’m busy. The only chance I get to play games is right before bed, IN BED. Because of the steam deck, I actually have the ability to play games since I’m between a few different living spaces weekly. I’ve enjoyed it so much, that I’m considering buying multiple so I don’t have to lug the same one around everywhere.
Compare this to a laptop. I can’t play that in bed laying down. In fact, if I’m on a computer at all I’ll end up just working. I have like 8-12 laptops macbooks windows tablets in various places and I only use a single desktop to game on the occasional free free day.
Steam deck legit brought back enjoyment and I’m getting to play games again.
asyrin25 t1_j5ja4zt wrote
Why can't you play a laptop in bed?
Also, I understand being busy, but what sort of time savings are you gaining by playing actually physically IN bed?
The time it takes to walk to bed from somewhere else in your house?
It's also not great for your sleep to play on a screen actually in bed.
iHazOver9000 t1_j5jcxph wrote
Perhaps you are able to adjust your life based on efficiency by the minutes and be able to actually enjoy yourself. I play the steam deck in bed as it helps me relax and get my mind off work//issues of the day. I don’t have a problem sleeping.
I am saying that the steam deck allows me to compartmentalize a portion of time enjoyment that I otherwise wouldn’t have. Not that I couldn’t forcefully carve time out of my schedule to fit in video games.
I mentioned that if I was on a computer at a desk, I’d end up working. And I’m sure that doesn’t make sense to you. That’s simply how I am, and not how you are.
Chao78 t1_j5k8o0e wrote
Plus you don't have to take a separate controller with you. I've beaten like 5 games I've been sitting on for ages simply because I could easily play in bed.
It's a godsend with a toddler in the house.
asyrin25 t1_j5jd5ax wrote
Great!
How does this relate to the comment I was responding to regarding price and performance?
iHazOver9000 t1_j5jdiei wrote
Because the steam deck fills a pc gaming void for some people. So at its price, it’s uncontested and unrivaled for me.
You are the one who began asking me why I don’t just use the seconds of time it takes to go from laptop to bed.
asyrin25 t1_j5je16p wrote
So, if some people really can't enjoy gaming without simulated 3D, would that mean the 3DS is the undisputed leader in price and performance? Because some people need simulated 3D? Do you think that's relevant?
Note that the comment I responded to didn't say "for playing in bed".
iHazOver9000 t1_j5jec5b wrote
Sure
asyrin25 t1_j5jfqtt wrote
So by that measure, anything is the undisputed price and performance leader...which means the comment I responded to was meaningless. So why respond to my comment?
afrogrimey t1_j5mhfem wrote
You’re quite the contrarian, aren’t you?
first__citizen t1_j5izk6b wrote
You can’t take your laptop to the shitter
YouKilledMyTeardrop t1_j5j6xvq wrote
Not with that attitude!
asyrin25 t1_j5ja0c4 wrote
Why not?
StarGaurdianBard t1_j5jk4oe wrote
Playing on a laptops track pad is a pain in the ass. If you are using a mouse then that's even more space being taken up and doesn't let you use it when at places like a bus, a flight, on the toilet, etc. Also the basic Steam Deck is $400, finding a decent gaming laptop for $400 that can run games as well as a Steam Deck does is going to be difficult purely from where the budget went in making a laptop meant to be general purpose vs a gaming device
asyrin25 t1_j5jlqsu wrote
Playing on the Steam Deck's trackpad is a pain in the ass.
As Valve points out, the steam deck is just a PC. It doesn't have special, cheaper "gaming" parts.
StarGaurdianBard t1_j5jmf9y wrote
For the vast majority of things that would require a track pad you have joysticks. There is a huge difference in the feel of a track pad vs a joystick.
As for the parts difference, you really can't think of a reason why anything extraneous in a laptop not needing to be present for a mobile device would allow for a budget to be different?
asyrin25 t1_j5jmqtv wrote
I also have controllers that are going to be better than the deck's sticks and buttons. They're small and portable.
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>As for the parts difference, you really can't think of a reason why anything extraneous in a laptop not needing to be present for a mobile device would allow for a budget to be different?
Can you be specific what you think is missing that's significantly detracting from the price? What is the deck missing that prevents it from having the functionality of a laptop?
StarGaurdianBard t1_j5jnhqo wrote
If you are busting out a mouse and controllers with your laptop there is no fucking way I'm believing you use it anywhere outside of environments like your home. Imagine trying to play a laptop with a controller on a subway vs a steam deck.
Care to link a decent gaming laptop for $400?
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asyrin25 t1_j5jp3c7 wrote
Why would I need a mouse? As you pointed out, joysticks work fine.
Just off the top of my head, I'd pit this HP against the steam deck. Especially at the deck's resolution.
At the $650 I paid for my deck it's even easier.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09G8SK2KK/
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