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CptnCumQuats t1_j4r13qt wrote

I’m just happy they keep upgrading so I can eventually get an m1 MacBook Pro for cheaper than the $900 I saw it on for a bit.

Kind of like the iPhone SE, they gotta make a MacBook Pro SE with the m1 chip and sell it forever.

But bring back MagSafe and USB c.

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LucyBowels t1_j4riuyt wrote

You can find great used deals on FB marketplace or OfferUp. I got an M1 Pro Mac Studio for $800 last month from some college student who didn’t need it

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BILLCLINTONMASK t1_j4s604w wrote

I got a MacBook Air M1 and an iPhone se3 at the same time. For a brief moment, it was possible to get both a new iPhone and new apple laptop for $1300 bucks total in the 2020s.

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ThatDoucheInTheQuad t1_j4rtswf wrote

They got rid of the MagSafe!? My 2015 MBP is still holding up like it's only a year old but I know the end will eventually come. Hopefully Apple puts the MagSafe back

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NakedSnack t1_j4t7oi3 wrote

They got rid of it in the 2016 MBP design but brought back a new version with the current design, which came out late 2021

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daj0412 t1_j4u5aab wrote

dang i feel like mines at the end of its life… it’s just so slow with everything and pretty much can’t handle the media files from my camera…

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ThatDoucheInTheQuad t1_j4utga7 wrote

To be fair there were a couple of years where I dramatically decreased my usage. Now that I have it at work 5 days a week I know the end must not be far off.

Plus this internal 256gb ssd is wayyyyyyyyyyyy too small and last I checked it just wasn't worth paying for the 512. I basically live off of my external drives

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daj0412 t1_j4v1atx wrote

lol same, it’s all external drives or cloud for me now

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cardcomm t1_j4vpkg4 wrote

I think the Air now has MagSafe again, just not on the case model. 🤦🏻‍♂️

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bigjamg t1_j4qyunc wrote

Available January 24. Would love to see some benchmark tests against the M1 Pro and Max.

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zoinkability t1_j4r51hy wrote

Looking forward to those. Very curious how those GPUs stack up against traditional laptop GPUs as well.

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LOLZatMyLife t1_j4rb8zo wrote

i own and use the final intel MBP Apple manufactured

can i wait till this thing literally dies or is the m2 platform significant enough to merit a upgrade ?

i only do basic coding/photo editing and watch netflix occasionally

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savage_slurpie t1_j4rcoej wrote

I mean unless your current machine is costing you time on the job (aka money) than there’s no need to upgrade.

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LOLZatMyLife t1_j4rj9zr wrote

bet - will check again 5 years from now 👍🏽

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savage_slurpie t1_j4rm59o wrote

I’m in the same boat as you btw. Doing software development on an Intel MBP. Right now my skills are the bottleneck, not the machine. Maybe that will change in the future.

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evoke3 t1_j4rtdvd wrote

Am I allowed in the boat with my 2013 MBP that has been destroyed by software updates, making it almost unusable.

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LOLZatMyLife t1_j4sfi28 wrote

would it be correct to assume having a intel MBP is good for dev because of software compatibility?

the only coding i've started is in python & golang but it's for a cybersecurity project im exploring

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savage_slurpie t1_j4sifbe wrote

I really don’t think it matters for most devs. Most of my coworkers are using M1 machines and I haven’t heard of any issues from them.

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cloudcity t1_j4sinae wrote

all M1 and M2 chips are brain-meltingly fast. you literally cannot go wrong with a new Mac, it's insane. you can complain about them being expensive, but they are simply on another level in terms of power AND efficiency.

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gopiballava t1_j4uw4vn wrote

I went from an Intel 16” to an M1 13”. The battery life and lower heat output are amazing.

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Axman6 t1_j58iqn6 wrote

When the M1 MBPs came out, one of the lead engineers at Twitter said that the improvement in compilation time for their developer’s was so impressive that the saved time would pay for the cost of the machines in less than 6 months in increased productivity. Compilation benefits massively from fast IO, particularly when you’re compiling locally with optimisations off to improve build times, and the disk and memory bandwidth improvement over the Intel machines is huge. Apple claim the new M2 MBPs compile Xcode projects 2.5x faster than the last Intel machines.

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tomistruth t1_j4suzdq wrote

The real MVP is the new mac mini with the M2 Pro costing 499, but that will be faster than the previous MacPro with M1 Max. It's ridiculous.

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iZeyad t1_j4t34ow wrote

It’s M2 only, not the pro.

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tomistruth t1_j4uboz2 wrote

No, they being the M2 Pro to rhe mini as well.

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MrMeseeks_ t1_j4uw6gc wrote

Right but that’s not the one costing 499

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tomistruth t1_j4uzul2 wrote

Yeah, I checked prices. It was more expensive than I imagined lol. But the entry level model is really nice! I only dread the low storage and ram.

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n0oo7 t1_j4r6q8x wrote

When is it not "more game-changing performance and the longest battery life ever in a Mac" like really? Name a MacBook that was worse than it's previous generation. I hate posts like these.

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TbonerT OP t1_j4r7n13 wrote

The 2020 MacBook Air had a 20-hour battery life, quite a bit longer than everything else. The pros generally have sacrificed battery life for performance.

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Eggsaladprincess t1_j4rxlca wrote

Apple Silicon has been pretty great battery life even for the Pro computers.

M1 13" Pro and M1 Pro 16" Pro both had longer battery life than the M1 Air.

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BoyVanderlay t1_j5kpnet wrote

Yup. I got an M1 Pro 13 around launch, still to this day I can get almost a full week of battery with causal use (1-3 hours a day, light productivity tasks).

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traveler19395 t1_j4t8kec wrote

You are thinking of the 2020 M1 13" Macbook Pro which Apple has marketed as "up to 20 hour" battery life, the very similar M1 Air has a smaller battery and "up to 18 hour" battery life.

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TbonerT OP t1_j4tbdd2 wrote

Nope. The 2020 M1 Air had a tested battery life of 20 hours.

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traveler19395 t1_j4tchif wrote

well the 2020 M1 Pro (13" Touchbar) was even longer. Apple marketed the Air as 18 and Pro as 20, and some tests found longer times, but the Pro still longer.

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StrikeEagle784 t1_j4s1p35 wrote

M2 seems like overkill when the M1 is pretty crazy already.

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Legote t1_j4udnuc wrote

It does. We just endured a decade of Intel gaslighting people about what is possible and what is not, while at the same time, hampering progress through monopolistic practices. I'm just glad Apple is willing to break from that and start innovating again because they're tired of Intel's bullshit.

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NatsuDragneel-- t1_j4ve5ww wrote

M2 is only optimization of M1 design.

M3 will be a true upgrade and should bring the big gun lift in performance.

M2 is for those looking to get into M series for first time, M3 will give M1 users a reason to upgrade.

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Jsmith4523 t1_j4qe50b wrote

It just felt like the first ones just came out

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lilliiililililil t1_j4qzaay wrote

Yeah they really did. I have the release M1 and I have no reason to upgrade. It's nice that Ryujinx runs natively now and they're becoming really potent switch emulators but other than that I don't do anything that warrants a more powerful macbook yet.

Obviously if you're in the market for a laptop already this is probably nice for you but there's no reason to upgrade from M1 to M2 for most people.

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descendency t1_j4ty3a0 wrote

"game changing" is probably one of the few things they aren't. (sadly... please Apple. Spend some money on gaming...).

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TbonerT OP t1_j4usku2 wrote

The hardware is already decent. The problem is the install base isn’t large so no one wants to develop games for it. So no one buys it for gaming, which keeps the install base small.

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mrmeisterhd t1_j4u4hbh wrote

I like using macs for literally everything other than gaming, because sadly, it just isn’t for that.

I believe that if Apple was able to push focus on making their computers able to play games well, they could create some hard competition in the PC gaming market

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b_a_t_m_4_n t1_j4qiryl wrote

I had a touchscreen laptop. It's pretty much just a gimmick IMO.

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mihirmusprime t1_j4qs92w wrote

What does that have to do with this MacBook? It isn't a touchscreen.

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b_a_t_m_4_n t1_j4qsrxe wrote

This is not the post I commented on. WTF Reddit?

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MunchYourButt t1_j4qtokj wrote

Now you can never leave

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Interesting-Pop3277 t1_j4s122g wrote

I think he was trying to reply to the thread below this one. Reddit reply sucks sometimes

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tcwillis79 t1_j4tyapw wrote

I always want to shit on the notion of a ouch screen laptop but I’m scared that if I do Apple will make one and I’ll enjoy it.

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b_a_t_m_4_n t1_j4un941 wrote

I was actually commenting on an article talking about them making one before Reddit decided to move it. So looks like you'll find out.

I just found it annoying.

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LeEpicBlob t1_j4tio68 wrote

I’ll sometimes use it to view pdfs. Preetty cool

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b_a_t_m_4_n t1_j4unf73 wrote

Fair enough. I just found it annoying. When I upgraded to a non touch laptop I didn't miss it whatsoever.

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Adamaja456 t1_j4tcqf8 wrote

Slightly off topic but connected with Apple unveiling products - is there any information about Apple possibly releasing an updated iMac 24 with the M2 chip this year?

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TbonerT OP t1_j4us9bf wrote

I haven’t seen anything official or rumored but it makes sense.

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LL31 t1_j4uat57 wrote

wow so compact and high performing

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Relyks954 t1_j512c63 wrote

Only 3 usb-c ports is pretty weak. My pro from 2017 has 4

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AAAPosts t1_j4sp05s wrote

Shouldn’t every new model have “the longest battery life yet!”?

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FatalVisionOrez t1_j4tko56 wrote

Apple fannies always in threads mad down voting. The internet never changes 🤣

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willpowerpt t1_j4soyaz wrote

Game changing performance that ironically won’t allow you to game.

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daneshpastry t1_j4qcoma wrote

So, no touchscreens still? They really don't want their iPad sales to slump.

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TbonerT OP t1_j4qe0e6 wrote

Why would you want a touch screen on a laptop. That sounds awful.

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Komikaze06 t1_j4qibsq wrote

To each their own, just because you don't like it doesn't mean it isn't popular

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TbonerT OP t1_j4qiz8v wrote

>just because you don't like it doesn't mean it isn't popular

It definitely says nothing about its popularity. What does say something about it is that no one I've ever met with a touchscreen laptop has ever said anything positive about the touchscreen.

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daneshpastry t1_j4qeog0 wrote

It's not. Virtually every other brand gives you the option.

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TbonerT OP t1_j4qf5qn wrote

I've only seen people with touchscreen laptops because I recognized them as such, not because they were used as such. I don't know anyone that touches a screen unless they have to.

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South_Pole_Santa t1_j4r4dtg wrote

Had one for years, never used it. Completely pointless feature to me.

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thelazygamer t1_j4rbakx wrote

My Samsung laptop is a 2 in 1 so I can flip it over and take notes with a pen or flip it back and type. It's really useful for school.

Many artists like the ability to draw on the machine they edit on. I know a few who stay with Windows laptops for that reason.

I also know a lot of older people who like having the option to use a touchscreen for daily use but still like having an attached keyboard and desktop OS apps.

I'm actually surprised they still haven't released a touchscreen MacBook Air 2 in 1 that would meet the first and third groups' needs.

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daneshpastry t1_j4qfdp6 wrote

Then why does every other brand offer them? If they weren't desirable, they wouldn't be an option. Discounting you own personal feelings - they're popular.

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Aonswitch t1_j4qfuvd wrote

Because they’re okay with producing shit products that have no justification to exist. It’s just marketing bs to charge for a feature (or more often make up for missing ones) by throwing a cheap touchscreen panel on

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TbonerT OP t1_j4qg42a wrote

> If they weren't desirable, they wouldn't be an option.

People have been saying that about growing cell phone sizes. "This phone is huge. It can't possibly get any bigger, no one would want it". Then someone comes out with a larger phone and it sells better than the last largest phone.

> Discounting you own personal feelings - they're popular.

Companies offering it as an option doesn't really say anything about popularity just ease of production.

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antolortiz t1_j4r0ptn wrote

It’s annoying

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daneshpastry t1_j4r6988 wrote

Not according to all the apple fanboys on here that couldn't possibly accept common criticism. Having options is bad!

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antolortiz t1_j4rat81 wrote

Having a touch screen on a laptop is annoying compared to a touch screen on a iPad or iPhone. It’s not it’s intended design and i remember one time a fly landed on my screen and moved my cursor. Lol it was weird.

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daneshpastry t1_j4rb86j wrote

Then don't buy that model. That's my point.

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antolortiz t1_j4rykhm wrote

Why are you pressed about it tho. That’s what I’m wondering

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daneshpastry t1_j4s2z4g wrote

Not pressed, was just a feature I would've like to see. :)

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Aonswitch t1_j4qe9ku wrote

Personably don’t want that, I hate touch screen laptops because of accidental touches and how grimey the screen gets.

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daneshpastry t1_j4qesvv wrote

But it should at least be an option at this point.

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Aonswitch t1_j4qezbi wrote

I disagree, I don’t think more options solves more things always. Have never seen a touch screen laptop that’s actually useful

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daneshpastry t1_j4qflyt wrote

They're useful and people like them. Just because you don't, doesn't mean it's not a thing. Every other competitor is offering them.

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NO_SPACE_B4_COMMA t1_j4qq62j wrote

uh huh. Good for apple on releasing a new overpriced device.

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Substantial_Boiler t1_j4qwpsl wrote

It's actually really good value for the performance you get out of these things. They are also built really well with nice display panels compared to most similarly specced PC laptop counterparts.

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NO_SPACE_B4_COMMA t1_j4qzqoc wrote

Perhaps, but it has macOS on it.

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LucyBowels t1_j4rj7qr wrote

Which is a great OS for many workflows…

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NO_SPACE_B4_COMMA t1_j4rq7d6 wrote

Great OS, no

OK workflow, sure.

Until you run into issues.

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LucyBowels t1_j4rqbay wrote

Lol do you hate on all Unix OSes? Or just because Apple makes this one

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NO_SPACE_B4_COMMA t1_j4s85li wrote

No.

Believe it or not you can dislike osx and not unix.

I'll take my arch distro over anything Apple offers.

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