HunterDecious t1_j45n535 wrote on January 13, 2023 at 9:29 AM

Reply to comment by MercatorLondon in The Fairphone 2 will hit end-of-life after 7 years of updates by ennuinerdog

>I looked around the 3rd party repair shops but the cost was similar.

That's by Apple's design.

>We need more companies doing this.

Genuinely curious how right to repair people like Louis Rossman would react to this comment, lol.

tjeulink t1_j469ye7 wrote on January 13, 2023 at 1:41 PM

louis rossman is often not knowledgeable about anything not hardware. he knows a lot about hardware and is usually right in that.

apple is genuinely very good in their software support. just as they are very good in regards to privacy compared to windows or android.

and even if your android phone receives long enough updates, the apps are just not going to work on it properly after sometime. you won't have that as much with apple products.

TheRetenor t1_j46wnrg wrote on January 13, 2023 at 4:16 PM

I have actuallt never seen an Android app not work on an Android phone that was on a somewhat reasonable older version (like 8.0 kind of is currently). I have however seen apps act up specifically in brand terms. Sometimes an app will not work on a certain Samsung device or similar.

And ontop of that you can install literally any Android version on most android phones if you are willing to invest a day of reading through guides (and have an unlockable phone), I mean there was the Android 10 patch for the 2011 Galaxy S2 and even new apps ran on that. Issues came mostly from insufficient hardware, which is of course not as much a problem on apple phones because there is no budget segment. A 2018 Galaxy J Something will struggle with anything 2023 way before flagships.

But in general, backwards support is mostly good for both OSes and I wouldn't want to discredit apple there.

In privacy terms however I disagree as recent events have shown. If you watch rossmann, you would know about some of those anyways though.

tjeulink t1_j47at6d wrote on January 13, 2023 at 5:42 PM

you don't have to invest a day of reading for an iphone to just work.

backwards support is much worse for android. new API versions just aren't supported by older systems causing glitches, crashes, inefficient opperation, etc.

apple completely clamps down on shit like that.

and no, apple is still better privacy wise. android does very little to protect your device. there are custom niche versions out there that do it better but even those are not good.

RenegadeAccolade t1_j45w30q wrote on January 13, 2023 at 11:28 AM

I think the “We need more companies doing this” was more about the long-term software support for devices.

I definitely am against Apple’s anti repair attitude, but I can respect them for having one of the, if not the longest, software support for their hardware.

HunterDecious t1_j45xk6o wrote on January 13, 2023 at 11:45 AM

Right, and I laughed because it comes at the cost of strangled repair rights. RtR has no chance if people are perfectly content with the current setup.