Jokes on them. I abandoned it about 14 months ago. VR still sucks, we need a massive overhaul for it to be anything more than a gimmick to show your dad for 20 minutes.

Hopefully some news outlet will track down the person who bought one to see if he's outraged about this.

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I have a quest 2. It’s fun and all, but it mostly sits on the shelf. It’s kind of neat to cast it to the tv and play beat saber when we have guests, but that’s about it.

It’s insanely uncomfortable to wear for more than 20 min, and hurts your eyes too.

VR isn’t there, and I’m not sure it will ever be, except for niche applications. We’re surely not jumping into “the Metaverse” any time soon.

Literally the only reason I am even looking at VR is for flight sims, where I would want to block out my surroundings. Outside of that none of the actual VR games interest me.

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VR for sim games is really it's strong spot.. in the end though it's a really niche market to be strong at.

The depth perception really helps in things like landing, and aerial refueling and the head tracking is great and way better then those IR trackers.

We had one for our kids who really liked it. The controls started having problems right after meta bought oculus, it was unplayable after we owned it for just over a year when the shit warranty expired. We could not buy a new controller anywhere. Meta quit supporting it immediately, you could not buy parts or get service. You could buy a used controller on eBay for around $150 dollars at the time, and then just hope the same thing did not happen. We got a raw deal on that thing.

I have one lol

I haven’t turned it on in maybe 2 years.

I better turn on and get some firmware updates before they shut it down I suppose

It is amazing for simracing. 😎

Never cared for anything else.

It’s great fun for showing to your family for 20 minutes though.

I actually got enough joy out of passing It around to fam and never playing again that it made it worth it to me I think.

People want to be immersed. VR is immersive most don’t actually care about blocking views. That being said VR/AR needs to be in one device for it to help.

I mean I remember when it came out and they seemed to be pretty popular since you didn't have to worry about the sensor setup and all that crap with the first one. I bet a lot of people are pissed (if it didn't already break, that is).

VR/AR are converging. No reason to choose one or the other.

I'd say you're a rarity. 99% of VR users use it for things other than flightsims.

Flightsims in VR are a very small niche.

I'm worried that the levels of Schadenfraude i'm experiencing lately what with with Meta's self-destruct, the collapse of Crypto and the absolute and utter failure of NFT's might lead to an OD.

Got 2 for my kids, Christmas 2020. They've probably had thousands of hours of use, they love them. Not sure why all the hate (apart from the account stuff). It's a great toy for a certain age range (probably 10-15).

I'd be upset but my kids are transitioning into PC games now.

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Standalone quest 2 VS using a PC are 100% different experiences. Also discovery for what you like can be hard. There are games on quest that let you play every cod map ever made and halo maps as well. Really depends on what you are looking for but the store makes it so hard to find.

"The person who bought one"

Hahahahahahahahahahha

>It's a great toy for a certain age range (probably 10-15).

VR is not recommended for children under 13yrs. Especially with a lot of the interactions in VR lobbies, I'd say it's questionable to allow children under 16yrs to use. Ultimately, it's up to the parents though.

Not to mention that you’ll be spending money on every app. I understand there are some free apps but there like 10 in total everything else is 10$ min. But I get it the market is new and innovation isn’t cheap!

The biggest problem for me was how shallow the games were and usually 10-20$

I have one, it was certainly really cool at the time, but firmly a gen 1 product with way too little power. Amazing they got it working at all TBH. OLED screens and full IPD adjustment are nice though.

Exactly I feel like I’m having to pay to be a beta tester smh

Meta has owned Oculus since before the Rift came out, and that was back in 2016.

Writing has been on the wall for a while. Try finding a controller that isn’t half the cost of a Quest 2.

In the late 80s or early 90s, I remember someone having a Nintendo Power Glove and using it in a neat little VR game to show their dad for 20 minutes.

30 years later...

There is this neat headset you can wear and show this neat VR game to your dad for 20 minutes.

30 years later....

There are these neat underwear you...

They abandoned it along time ago. My headset stopped working in Oct 2021 and they said they would replace it. just this week they send me the RMA. So I paid for a device that Sat unusable for over a year and now they want to replace it as they discontinue support for it

Update: I received the replacement headset...it's cosmetically damaged, doesn't work, and they didn't include the hardware for the headset that rests against your face, so it's unusable. I contacted support and asked to reach any sort of supervisor or management (in a very non-paren sort of way), and they told me no. LOL what a joke.

Same here. It quit working when I deleted my facebook account. Beat Saber was a lot of fun for a couple years.

VR is great, I still use my OG Vive. Meta sucks though.

I love that they still advertise the latest version with the hot new game...Beat Saber!

But being blind in one eye, I've never been the target market I guess...

quest 2 was out then source I bought mine Christmas 2020 I assume that's why people are down voting you.

That headset poisoned the well of VR (as most Facebook/Oculus things did), by making people think VR was accessible and enjoyable untethered--not just wireless, but no PC.

Untethered is accessible, it's not long term enjoyable. Tethered VR is the opposite. It's long term enjoyable but not accessible. A major problem continues to be the amount of available content, as the comfort problem is rapidly improving with the Index and newer HTC headsets.

I would compare it to owning an early EV. They were expensive, not great, and not feasible for longer trips because charging wasn't there. Nobody wanted to build chargers or faster charging because people didn't want to buy EVs that couldn't go anywhere and took forever to charge, and because people didn't want to buy them they weren't building chargers or making improvements to charging/batteries. It's the same story with VR and VR Content.

It's not that VR isn't reaching the realm of being great the same way EVs were years back--it's that people don't want to buy them because there isn't enough to do on them. There has to be a threshold soon where either untethered VR actually gets great--which I doubt happens in the next 5 or maybe even 10 years--or wireless, PC VR is cheap and accessible enough that people are willing to get a PC to go with it.

That type of advance is what eventually got EVs the infrastructure they needed. The hardware has to advance before the content, but it's good enough now to not be a gimmick. Good enough to be a smart purchase for gamers is another question, unless you're into Sim.

And elite dangerous if your into that kinda thing 🤓

Funny enough the free games are some of the best experiences. There are some damn good $20-$40 games but 9.99 are all standing in place stuff. Not for me. I enjoy shooters.

Five years of product support. That’s pathetic.

I'm assuming you only tried beatsaber and some random shovelware to have this opinion.

Nah you just don't know what you're doing. People are already in the metaverse it's called VRchat and I know people who spend 12 hours a day in there with 10000 hours played. People even sleep in VR.

Questionable for children under 16? Wtf why would that be?

"Especially with a lot of the interactions in VR lobbies"

It’s basically an Android mobile device. Some of the phones are lucky to get 3 years of support.

Even Apple only promises 5 years of support.

And a lot of those devices cost twice as much.

Ooooh! Original Quest. Ya thanks.

Humm.. I am not sure how much they differ from normal game lobby's, but a major problem is caused by screaming kids not adults I think

>a major problem is caused by screaming kids not adults I think

Exactly my point. Screaming kids yelling obscene and racist comments in the ears of other impressionable children. It's not hard to see how this would be a problem. Again, it's ultimately up to the parents to do their own research and make their own decisions regarding their own children.

I have one. Bought it in January of 2020, and I still use it.

It's pretty crappy that they stopped producing replacement hardware just a little over a year after it came out. As for the part about discontinuing updates, I think I prefer that. The alternative is that they keep pushing features made for the OQ2 until the OQ1 can no longer run the games that worked three years ago.

The company will provide nothing.

But it’s also absolutely terrifying. Especially those rare times where you go through a star

Normally, they will make the updates available for a while after, but they will stop developing new updates, but who knows what will actually happen.

scared and aroused

A great way to go :)

I still use it for Netflix if I’m too lazy to get out of bed, nice giant movie screen in my face. Little bummed fr tho, because I just caved and made the meta account.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that. Most of the VR games I bought were disappointing (especially Skyrim), and the game that I enjoyed the most was a stupid tie-in thing for one of the spiderman films that I downloaded for free.

This is no different than Apple updating the iPhone 5

Quest 2 is a far superior product, it even has basic hand tracking

Apple has updated my products up to 9+ years before they’re totally unsupported by OS and software updates. 5 is such a low bar.

I have one too. It's still pretty good using Airlink (or a usb cable) to tether it to a PC for VR, but there isn't that much good VR content.

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The Quest 2 is pretty long in the tooth at this point too, so they're not really leaving Quest 1 owners with a good upgrade path.

Still one of the best headsets for tethering to a PC.

iPhone 5 was released in 2012, a better comparison would be if they weren’t updating the iPhone 11.

Yep, I'd assume it uses the same fw delivery service as the q2.

Yuuup.

Until they just kill it with an obligatory update for the pc software

Probably, hopefully someone can jailbreak it into being just a PC headset. Unfortunately there aren't many good options that are wireless with inside out tracking and the quest hardware is so affordable and high end specs.

Yeah I have a perfectly functional Oculus Go which I want to use to watch movies and Netflix on but can't operate the menu because there are no controllers available.

Skyrim just like any other PC game you definitely need to mod for it to feel like an actual VR experience. If you play half life Alex, it will ruin all other VR experiences for you. There is a game called the grim Lord that is coming out and it will be a souls like experience. And there is a game called contractors on quest, two standalone and PC that will allow you to play halo call of duty and many other Mabs from the late 90s and early 2000s. And another shooter is called Pavlov. This will let you play call of duty zombies and some other game modes as well. Also, it has all of the maps from 007 goldeneye which is pretty cool. All these maps are modded and re-created by the community.

I bought Quest 2 last week. I have never regretted such a pricy buy ever in my life more than this on. Lack of games, lack of variety, even there horizon is just sooooo bad. It's just kids gaggling around. Very little creativity on top of it. I would sacrifice my one time travel use to revoke this purchase.

Ive done the star wars stuff, ping pong, golf+, racing sim and yes beat saber and some one off experience things. None of it comes close to getting me off my ps5

You're talking about the vast minority of the population that Meta needs to adopt this technology to make it in any way lucrative and sustainable. So yes, "we" as a society are not jumping into the Metaverse any time soon.

The iPhone 6S was discontinued in 2018 and Apple just stopped new OS support for it this year (it can’t get iOS 16). That’s the most recently discontinued model under their new policy and…. is 5 years.

Their other devices tend to be supported longer since there really isn’t much reason for them to stop OS updates for a laptop or streaming box, etc. But we were taking quickly evolving mobile devices here.

Anyway - they entire modern VR industry is less than 8 years old. IMO until it’s more mature 5 years isn’t bad.

My OG Quest does hand tracking perfectly fine.

Thank you for confirming I'm not alone in finding zero motivation to use my OG Quest headset.

The 6S was released in 2015.

Yes, and discontinued in 2018. They count from when the last people could buy it, not the first.

Boneworks was good and blade and sorcerybis fun... but forever incomplete.

How much stress can slaying thousands of people really be worked out before you develop unhealthy complex

Ok now do the quest 1 the same way. Quest 2 came out in 2020, let's use that release date as the most generous date. 2.5 years?

Yep. I broke a controller and can't get a replacement, it sucks.

They are discontinuing support in 2024, not today. So 4 years in this case for a first gen product that sold less than 1/20th of the current one (and counting).

I’m not trying to argue their policy is better than Apple’s (a company that sells a few hundred million of each model). My original post said it was more than most Android devices (given it’s basically an Android device) and almost as much as Apple. Seems 100% correct, huh?

I'm hoping my OG Quest can survive until the Quest 3 is announced. One controller already has a cracked ring being held together with superglue, but I don't want to buy an OQ2 only to have Meta abandon it twelve months from now.

Edit: I'm curious about the down votes, considering Meta's precedent on the subject.

Does anyone actually know a person that uses this or even the newer ones?

Will they brick it before hand, like the rift s?

Don’t forget about the slow implosion of Twitter. Absolute popcorn bait.

Yeah but but…. Meta bad 😡

I have a meta quest, it was cool …for a couple weeks…haven’t touched it in months…

Honestly… I don’t really disagree with that statement for some reasons! But they are mostly Facebook and Instagram related, not Oculus.

So far then, I'm still good with updates.

Is this the part where we go "lul told you so", then join in on shitting on meta relentlessly until they are gone from the vr market?

Shows how behind I am. I still have my iPhone 8 Plus..

Exactly, most good games still require PCVR though. Like Half Life Alex, Boneworks, and imported games like Skyrim VR, Half life 2, No-Mans Sky VR, etc....

Last of its kind. I know a few hold outs that won’t upgrade from their iPhone 8+ because they’re just so comfortable with the size and home button config.

I use my Quest 2 all the time, but mostly for PC-VR, which the Quest 1 is just as capable for.

Meanwhile, in GearVRville...

I use my quest 2 all the time but not for games. I use it to watch Plex on Bigscreen. It’s awesome

I mean, they are.

That’s not a reason to argue erroneous points

I'm upset that I turned on my Oculus Go, which I paid actual money for under the understanding that it would not require a Facebook account to function, and learned that it will now require a Facebook account to function. Even to just side-load 360 photos from my drone apparently.

Well there’s a ringing endorsement to purchase any future product from them…

Hah, I played the same stuff and more but combined it has less hours than runescape.

I bought one and it was fucking mind blowing. Don’t get the hate on VR.

Nooo! Not the facecrab!!

Seems like a shame to abandon decent hardware

Seems like the best way to get more people into the meta verse is to remove more people from it

This guy vr's. I've enjoyed a couple 3d movies as well, but sim racing is definitely where it's at.

hopefully they realise that nobody actually cares about their metaverse...

I would send it in. There’s a good chance you’ll get a Q2.

I thought it was neat until I watched some Japanese porn. It was well produced and I actually felt like I was in the action.

Then I looked down and it scared the crap out of me. I’m getting the uncensored version next time.

Nope. I got an email today saying I was getting a “Grade B Quest 1”. I inquired as to what they meant. They said it works but has cosmetic damage. Literally I sent a flawless one in

VRChat as a concept is really good, but in practice the platform fucking sucks. Everything is tied to worlds, you can’t have world-independent objects you can take everywhere,

That’s ridiculous.

Yep. I’m over Meta no matter how good a future product is. I’m going to try PSVR2 and hope the cable isn’t a bother, while some compelling cordless open comes out by a competitors.

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The 3 is expected to be out this year so I'd say that's definitely the upgrade path they expect

Except we’re not seeing a new VR headset each year.

The first iPhone got 3 years of software support, first generation products always get screwed.

They’re just not updating it anymore. It will still work

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Shouldn’t the support lifetime be counted when the support is stopped, not when the sales are? Even if 6s hasn’t been sold for 4 years, it got 9 years of software support. 5 years is way past most tech’s warranties so the lack of full hardware support isn’t really relevant and even then I am pretty sure Apple’s genius bar will fix them for a fee.

Just got one for Christmas. Not too worried about it.

I find it interesting that when they rebranded the Quest 2 from Oculus to Meta that the price for the EXACT same headset went up £100.

Oh, another reason to avoid buying a VR system, good, I'll continue to save money while awaiting for a killer app.

Ho hum, more of the same, rinse and repeat.

Are they jailbreakable? I hate the current UI and all and it would be great to be able to fix it

Still use mine to watch movies and catch up on some series. I really love the big screen immersion. I might wait for those new personal screen glasses like the Nreal. But that one is not IOS native and needs an adaptor.

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There's hardly enough Schadenfraude hours in the day any more, and what with the Saxe-Coburg's unfolding disaster to rubberneck...

Ooooffff what a shit company

We are talking software support which should be counted from when sales stop to when software support stops - since there would be an expectation to support someone’s device for a reasonable time from when they bought it new from you.

HTC launching their new wireless set around the same time as psvr2, late Q1 2023, per CES

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Yeah for like 1200 dollars.

Received the Q1 replacement and its missing parts and unusable along with cosmetic damage.

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