Sounds convenient

At only a 50% mark up

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What do you mean?

Why? I mean, there have been unofficial bundles that include a second controller. But why would this come from Sony? I'd feel like most PS5 owners would rather have a special second controller that isn't the standard white. What games would even require two controllers?

? Battery life isn’t very good but the controller itself is incredible. Most everybody who plays it or reviews the ps5 mentions that the controller is one of the most “next-gen” things about the experience.

As a long time xbox user the controllers blew me away. Extremely light, responsive buttons, great trigger feedback and the controller sound/motion effects tripped me out, definitely took me by surprise

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At this point Sony knows people will spend the extra money on the bundle JUST to get a PS5, easy attach rate and margin growth.

Yup. I used to buy everything on Xbox because I preferred my Elite controller. Now I buy nearly everything on PS because the haptics on the controller are SO GOOD. The Xbox is basically just a game pass appliance for me now.

Now thats innovation

I agree here. Personally I love the purple one, but I of course got a white one with the ps5 and got the GoW one. Having a second one is nice so I can hot swap if the battery is low. However, I feel like I'm shut out of even considering getting that purple one. I mean, if it's hard to justify a second, why would I ever think of getting a third?!

Personally I wish instead of these two controller versions they'd have a no controller version with either a voucher for one at the same price or for $50+ cheaper.

FIFA. Tekken, Street fighter, NBA etc

The first two controllers I got (one with the console and one bought separately) had pretty severe stick drift issues after only a couple of months.

That's true. I forget that Sports games exist that people multi-play locally. But that's fair. Especially if they push this harder outside of North America.

Who the fuck said it’s horrid? I’ve used a bunch of current gen gaming devices this past year and it’s probably the best controller out right now. It’s in my top two current gen gaming items right behind the steam deck.

>What games would even require two controllers?

Completely not on topic but I fucking hate how the gaming industry successfully made it almost a requirement that it's 1 person per console if you want to game with friends or family.

Have two kids that are heavy gamers that want to play games with each other? Two PS5s.

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As someone else pointed out to me, fighting games (like Street Fighter) and sports games (like Madden and FIFA) still have local multiplayer. But that is a far cry from the olden days of local couch multiplayer or co-op. And none of these are split-screen.

It's really too bad, because those kinds of games were a ton of fun. I wonder if they will see a resurgence at some point in the future? Seems like something someone might tap into at some point and people go crazy for it in some way that results in a few fairly high profile games in a relitively short period of time.

Gotta agree that I’m ALWAYS on the market for a good split screen/two player co-op game. Wife and I just bought a PS5 and bought Sackboy for $15 at Walmart. So much fun! Sadly we’re struggling to find other good co-op games to play together…

So that's Sony's solution to bad battery life.

I think for 300 that’s be a really good deal.

It takes two

I’ll look it up, thanks dude.

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Nice. When the 1st one's stick starts drifting after a few months, you can just swap to the other one.

ding ding ding

I can miss one kidney, two's pushing it a bit...

Suggestion: When i was younger I played a little bit of a game with my brother called “Tale of Two Brothers”. Both characters are controlled with one half of the controller; the older brother is completely controlled with the right stick, buttons, and right triggers and the younger the left stick, directional pad, and left triggers. We ended up holding the controller between us while playing the game each with one hand. I’ve been thinking about getting it for me and my partner because I never finished it!

Is the battery on DS5 as bad as DS4? Honestly, I want to trade in my PS4 just for better battery life

Apparently it’s worse than the ps4

This is only my experience, but I can game for like 6+ hours with the PS5 controller without any issue. I don't pay that much attention, but I was playing GoW Ragnarok like 10 hours a day and aside from like an hour of charging while I ate some food, my controller never died.

Just got the GoW bundle yesterday. I’d rather have this.

Honestly the best part of the Xbox controller is that it uses AA batteries.

If it dies, I can just swap my rechargeable AAs with the ones on my charger. And if the batteries deteriorate over time I can get replacements for cheap because of how ubiquitous AA are, it's a nice little right to repair feature.

Meanwhile, my PS controllers might as well be wired.

Chiming in to say It Takes Two is freaking amazing and so much fun to play even for non gamers

Wow. Stunning that isn't a priority for Sony. DS4 is dreadful.

My DS4 dies after a couple hours of just streaming Netflix. It's insane.

In theor controllers? I haven't had an issue with the PS5 controller batteries at all?

nobody plays splitscreen anymore

I couldn't believe I had to purchase the GoW controller separately after opening the bundle and realizing it came with the basic white. Everyone has to milk us for every little detail, feature or variation of their products these days.

Not only is the battery life worse, but the controllers have a major stick drift issue, I’ve been through 3 over the course of a year.

Why is everyone complaining about the ps5 controllers? I’ve had mine for over a year and I haven’t had a single issue. I’m pretty sure I’ve never even seen low battery. How long do people play without charging their controllers?

It seems worse. But I also have a couple controllers and keep two on the charge cradle all the time.

Honestly it feels like the battery is always warning that it is low but can keep going for hours like that often. So maybe they really aren't too bad.

No, it’s Sony solution for the rampant stick drift.

I’m on my third new DualSense in 25 months. And I honestly don’t even play that much. The one I just replaced, I was able to open and “fix” twice before having to retire it.

Tell my sons.

I was basically forced to buy a two controller bundle when I found my PS5 at GameStop a while back.

I haven’t even taken the original white controller out of its box and I’ll just save it.

Was mildly salty I was forced into the second controller for no reason but at least it’s a cool red one 😆

I have 4 PS5 controllers , 3 of them have drift… any day the 4th will and I’ll have to buy another. 🥺

I hate to be that guy, but what about the environment 🤓

This is the way, I don't want game bundles.

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>had to purchase the GoW controller

With all due respect, they're not doing anything unethical. If you're willing to pay for exactly the same product functionally with some aesthetic changes, it makes total sense to charge you for it.

You're willing to pay for every little detail and variation.

You don't have to purchase it. Just use a normal controller.

>I'd feel like most PS5 owners would rather have a special second controller

Nah, most people don't care about that. Most people would welcome two controllers in their bundle.

Most gamers aren't as obsessed as the ones on reddit.

You missed the point. I was disappointed that my GoW bundle came with a normal controller when, in the past, the featured controller has been included with the bundle. I was going to buy a second controller anyway.

Never said they're being unethical. And of course a business has the goal of profit. Just stinks that every company has adapted this habit of charging extra for every little detail they can.

>. I was disappointed that my GoW bundle came with a normal controller when, in the past, the featured controller has been included with the bundle. I was going to buy a second controller anyway.

My bad, looks like I did.

Still though, we all live in a global economy predicated and hinged on year on year growth, we're just living downstream from that.

I don't game often but when I do, I play 10+ hours. In that time I have to switch controller after about 5 - 6 hours. Depends on the game and how many features of the new PS5 controllers they are using. IMO batteries in PS5 controllers don't last as long as batteries in PS4 controllers.

So there, one controller is not enough for me.

Stick drift problems like the whole industry still has had forever, and weak springs in the triggers on earlier controllers. Besides that they're okay, although I personally would prefer replaceable batteries that can charge separately in a cradle. like the Xbox ones.

Often won't work because they will point you to Sony, and Sony know the serial numbers.

We have a "charging dock" and always have one or two controllers charging... the main reason we have multiple is because of the shit battery life.

We have one PS3 controller that gets VERY occasional use as a streaming device and we charge it like twice a year. When covid was in full swing I replayed Red Dead 1 and it lasted about 3 days with constant use before needing to be charged. And it weighs less than the PS4 controller...

I have a cradle too. But it's a POS and the controllers fall out very easily. Just a frustrating experience all around.

That's a nice idea, but maybe encourage some developers to make games couch co-op instead of 1-4 Network Players. I'm so sick of multiplayer being nearly exclusive to players with two consoles.

Gamestop gave me an extra controller (choice of color) and a charging stand lol

Yeah you need to dig the N64 out of the closet and see who’s throws the controller first after losing in GoldenEye

💀, 2 years too late

amen, amen, amen.

Never see a PS5 for sale anywhere

The older one only wants to play co-op because he generally doesn't like to lose. The younger one only wants to play competitive because he likes to kick ass. It's tough finding something they both want to play. Between the NES emulator (Raspberry Pi) and the PS3 (Ragdoll Kung Fu, LBP Karting) they have some good choices, but the PS4 options have been slimmer. Basically they play It Takes Two, Minecraft, Quake, and a shitload of Brawlhalla.

Tree fitty

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Is the PS5 even any good? Seems like it's a slightly improved PS4+ at the end of the day, but I could just be ignorant about the tech that's all under the hood

What about the fact that now some PS5 will start to rot if they are left in their stand for too long?

I hate to be that guy, but I clearly said I use rechargeable AAs....

Not worth it considering the controllers go on sale quite often.

What?

Have you tried one of the play station remotes? I always wanted to get on but never bit the bullet

Oh you gotta finish it, it’s.. heart wrenching

I didn't know this was an issue until just now; I thought only the Switch had the problem.

I don't recall the PS2 or GameCube having drift issues, I wonder why these consoles do.

Mute the mic, it drains battery even if you're not actively using any voice chat.

No. I didn't know they had one

Yes you're ignorant

Hmmm Kay

Are we still doing console fanboyism? That's so 90s/00s

Coming soon… in the next three years

how long have you had those controllers btw?

Apparently there are console repairmen posting images of PS5 leaking liquid metal (likely solder) from being too long in vertical upright position.

Is it still hard to buy a PS5, like find one for sale?

They still haven’t even really released the regular version. I haven’t seen one anywhere.

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That’s only if your system is already damaged.

Tell that to the aussies

Having recently bought a PS5, I found the DS5 had a better battery life than the DS4s I used prior. But, this is after years of use on the DS4s part versus practically new DS5.

I'm still planning on getting a second one eventually anyway, since it'd good to have spares.

Don't buy new controllers, fix the ones you have. DS4 are extremely easy to repair, DualSense are similar but slightly less so.

I’ll wait for the pc release.

Same I’ve got mine since launch and no problems. I can game for 3-4 hours fine. I don’t think most people game for longer than that in a single session since people need breaks

Can somebody convert Dollaridoos to USD?

Good to know.

You can turn down the hepatic level and turn off mic for longer battery life

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Can’t wait to not be able to buy it.

This is the stupidest Reddit post I’ve seen all day. Why is this even getting upvoted? “Console company now selling console with extra controller”

Holy shit are we THAT deprived for any tech news? Please delete this post it’s too stupid for the internet

I had stick drift with multiple PS4 controllers. Sucks they still haven’t fixed it. Now I use an Xbox controller on PC and haven’t had a single issue.

I just wish there were reasonably priced alternatives. Force Sony to make a durable, viable product.

Not long enough... lets see here , the white one came with the cosole and ive had it since launch and it was the first to get drift.... Bought the crimson red controller and it has drift also and so does the black one... mainly using the camo controller now as it is the newest and still has yet to drift.

The standard ps4, ps5, xbox and switch pro controllers all use the same stickbox and have similar drifting rates/issues.

That's bad luck. They aren't the most durable, but they shouldn't be dying like that. For reference, it's the same hardware as the PS4, Xbox and switch pro controllers (default controllers, not stuff like the Xbox elite controller)

So did the OG controller drift within like a year or something? I'm only asking so I can gauge mine out of curiosity. I've had these 2 DualSenses for about 6 months now and I'm gonna see how far it goes.

I've always been skeptical of peoples anecdotes about drift sometimes because as long as we're not talking about joycons I feel like it comes down to usage only because the last time I got drift was on my dualshock 4 that I left to gather dust and even then that took 3 years to start drifting. started buying controller pouches ever since.

Regardless, I do believe that as long as you're not bashing the controller against a wall It shouldn't drift due to prolonged use but wear and tear is also a thing so I don't really know where to stand here.

No your statement is just factually incorrect. now that you made this statement I think you're stupid for ignoring facts

I mean I don't feel stupid at all considering I prefaced my curiosity in my original comment pretty explicitly, but it's all good, I hope your butt is ok from all that hurting

are there even games that are multiplayer?

But this one comes with a new hat!

Oh cool. They give you a backup for when the first one starts crapping out after a month.

PS4, Xbox One, PS5 and Series X use the exact same joystick boxes. As do Wii U Gamepad, Wii U Pro, and Switch Pro controllers.

Meh, don't screw over the retailer because of Sony's bullshit. Better to fix the controller or get a cheap 2 year warranty on it.

Switch Pro and Wii U use the same stick boxes, and they're different than Xbox/PS.

It's mainly because bundles deter scalpers and controllers lose value a lot less than games.

Do you have a source on that? I don't mind being proven wrong, but I didn't just make up what I said

https://www.ifixit.com/News/48944/heres-why-ps5-joysticks-drift-and-why-theyll-only-get-worse

Oh, I stand corrected, I knew for a fact that Wii U and Switch used the same ones. Didn't know they also used the same as Xbox/PS

That's the thing about being stupid. You don't know because you're... well stupid

Making factually incorrect statements is not posing a curiosity question

Stay mad... Over a console

Not mad at all, maybe if you weren't so dumb you would see I'm fucking with you🤣🤣🤣

You called me a fanboy for telling you your wrong, if anything your the mad one.