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[deleted] t1_j26z5v5 wrote

Reply to comment by rudecanuck in A17 chip for iPhone 15 may focus more on battery life than power, suggests report by MicroSofty88

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WesBur13 t1_j26zpsn wrote

Designed and fabricated are two completely different things. If that was the case, then AMD is just TSMC's chips, the same with Nvidia.

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Samsung owns the factory that puts Apple's design into the physical silicon, and Apple actually designs the chip itself.

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AadamAtomic t1_j270gte wrote

The iPhone literally needs to have two chips inside of it because a single chip is too shitty on its own for full processing. "It's not a bug! It's a feature, now your phone can work like its supposed too"

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WesBur13 t1_j272u6v wrote

I'm sorry what? The closest thing to that would be the M1 ultra which is only on MacOS devices.

iPhones and iPads are all using single SOCs, like every other mobile device.

Here is iFixit's breakdown on the 14pro max
https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iPhone+14+Pro+Max+Chip+ID/153224

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AadamAtomic t1_j273vit wrote

Chip shortages my dude.

You didn't know apple was selling the newest phone with old chips without telling you?

It's easy to become a trillion dollar company when only dummies buy your overpriced chinese phones religiously for themselves in their five-year-old children.

Apple is tricking you into upgrading your phone and paying for cheap as dirt Ram, to handle their purposely disabling updates.

The cool thing about Android is that there are hundreds of different options to choose from...fuck Samsung, go with LG... you don't like the great cameras and screens on LG phones then go with Sony, they have awesome cinematic cameras on their phones.

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WesBur13 t1_j275yx5 wrote

Lmao, they never hid that they used the same SOC as the previous year. It was printed plain as day on the marketing materials. The A15 Bionic was the pro model SOC. They just stepped it down to the non-pro the next year.

No one is forcing people to buy Apple devices. Not sure why it's any different from Samsung or LG?

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AadamAtomic t1_j27fni8 wrote

>Not sure why it's any different from Samsung or LG?

Because of the Android you actually have options.... not just one single phone.... they are literally different phones... they are very different... Android phones are not all the same chinese clones like iPhones are.

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WesBur13 t1_j27i2t5 wrote

I mean, this is my last response for several reasons, but here are a few:

You made a dumb claim about multiple chips used in an iPhone when that has NEVER happened. When questioned, you changed your argument to another, non-existent issue.

Claimed Apple lied about the SOC used in the iPhone 14. They actually used the fact is was the 13 Pro's SOC as a talking point during its announcement. Not sure how that means they are hiding anything. Check it yourself if ya want.

As someone who actually deals with mobile devices on a daily basis, I'm gonna let you in on a secret. Almost every manufacturer does throttling based on battery performance. Lithium batteries cannot handle the current required for high performance as they age. They begin to brown out, leading to instability. Sooooo most manufacturers will limit core speed based on the voltage drips under heavy load. Was Apple's super aggressive? 100%, But they also do not have nearly the same issues with suddenly turning off as they age. That's also why dropping a new battery in will eliminate the performance reduction.

Calling Apple phones Chinese clones is the funniest thing I have heard all year. They develop their own OS instead of piggybacking off of Goggle. They develop their own SOC designs instead of using Qualcomm's. Are they assembled in China? Yeah, at Foxconn, along with about 40% of all consumer electronics, including most of the big-name brands running Android.

You are talking out of your ass, and it's hilarious. With that, I am no longer responding to this thread.

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AadamAtomic t1_j27kre7 wrote

>Calling Apple phones Chinese clones is the funniest thing I have heard all year. They develop their own OS instead of piggybacking off of Goggle.

95% of the total iPhone supply still comes from China – and around 80% of all iPhones are made in a single plant in Zhengzhou, aka iPhone City.

Sure, some underpaid schmuck made the super simplistic Software on your country specific update, that doesn't change the fact that it's still a shit phone made with shit parts and only cost $120 to make, then sells to dummies for a 10X profit margin.

IPhone: $120 to make, sells for $1,200

Newest Samsung Ultra: $350 to make, sells for $1,000.

The Samsung phones cost more to make because they actually have quality parts,screens, and cameras.

Apple uses a shit AI to make your photos look good on their phone screens, but if you ever upload those photos to a computer they still look like shit.

To all Android users your photos look like shit because that's how they were taken by the shit camera on your iPhone.

Your photos only look good on the weird shaped iPhone screens of other iphone users.

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zhandri t1_j291kqd wrote

Since 14 pro max is actually 500$ to make, does that mean Samsung is using cheap shit parts since theirs is only 350 to make?

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abaddon_the_echo t1_j282trb wrote

Seriously where the fuck are you getting the $100 figure from? You’re just pulling facts out your ass.

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AadamAtomic t1_j2856fv wrote

>Seriously where the fuck are you getting the $100 figure from? You’re just pulling facts out your ass.

its not hard to find

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more_beans_mrtaggart t1_j2blz94 wrote

Well that was the most teenage rage thread I’ve seen in a long time. Literally everything you quoted was incorrect, and pulled right out of your arsehole.

So run along, and when your nuts have dropped, and you finally see the tech industry for what it is, rather than good guys/bad guys you can come and hang with the grown-ups.

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abaddon_the_echo t1_j27xewr wrote

Apple haters literally foaming at the mouth, you’re even sadder than the die hard fan boys

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rudecanuck t1_j270boy wrote

Ya, you absolutely have no idea what you are talking about.

Apple newest chip for the iPhone, the A16 Bionic Chip is far faster than any chip in any other smartphone. It’s designed by Apple, not Samsung. LMAO. Likewise, Apple started designing their own laptop chips with the Mx line.

The A16 chip destroys any other mobile chip in both single core and multi-core performance benchmarks. Hell, the 2020 A14 chip beats the best Android chip in Single Core performance.

https://nanoreview.net/en/soc-list/rating

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AadamAtomic t1_j2716vk wrote

>you absolutely have no idea what you are talking about.

>Apple newest chip for the iPhone, the A16 Bionic Chip is far faster than any chip in any other smartphone.

Doubt it.

Its just a clockspeed adjustment.

Apple users are too stupid to know what that even means so it shouldn't bother them. As long as they perceive it faster they'll think it's better.

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rudecanuck t1_j271hao wrote

Yet, the benchmarks for it destroys all Android chips.

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AadamAtomic t1_j273ciu wrote

>Yet, the benchmarks for it destroys all Android chips.

Lmfao! Weird how they can only Benchmark Apple official apps on iphones... weird how Android phones can run just about anything they want including functioning as full computers.

The majority apps that are on both Android and iPhone, are usually better on Android and can do more.

IPhone apps are always watered down and shitty, but if you only have an iPhone you will never notice. Shittiness is all you've ever been exposed to. There are no alternative app stores for you to even Witness how shit you have it.

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rudecanuck t1_j274fae wrote

They are Geekbench benchmark. Again, you have no clue what you are talking about.

Fine, you don't like Apple, I really don't give a shit.

But

  1. Apple processors are by far the most powerful mobile processors. That is undeniable. Can you find one tech site that says otherwise? That the A16 Chip is not the most powerful mobile chip out there? No? Didn't think so.
  2. Apple chips are not made by Samsung or Samsung sloppy seconds. I'm not sure where you got that piece of misinformation. Apple has been designing their own chips for ages now (which now even includes laptop chips in the Mx line, which are far better laptop chips than Intel makes).
  3. As far as Apps go, ya, you again are showing a complete bias, and that you have no idea what you are talking about.
  4. I've owned both iPhone and Android devices...
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TurdWaterMagee t1_j273rbe wrote

Name an app that’s “watered down and shitty” on iPhone

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AadamAtomic t1_j27fijg wrote

As someone who works for AT&T and probably sold you your shit iPhone just for the nice commission paycheck.

There are literally hundreds of apps that work better on Android, including most of the music and art creation ones. that's why Apple had to create their own Alternatives like GarageBand.

Even our reddit apps are different because of the permissions I can choose to allow the app.

You literally can't download videos can you?

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Big_Paleontologist83 t1_j27h50j wrote

i know you’re just trolling, but for anyone who reads it and doesn’t know, PLEASE DON’T buy non-Apple devices for making music, even the cheapest iPad will be better than any “high-end” Android tablet or PC computer

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Big_Paleontologist83 t1_j27if3e wrote

literally every artist in the worlds uses a Mac (or an iPad) it’s been better due to lower latency and infinitely better software support

that guy just claimed that Samsungs provides Apple with iPhone chips which is factually incorrect (they are designed by Apple produced by TSMC) and that Android has better app ecosystem (wrong, examples: LumaFusion, Procreate, Affinity, Photoshop to name a few out of literal thousands being better or only on iOS/iPadOS)

please don’t listen to it by any means

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AadamAtomic t1_j27hglu wrote

>even the cheapest iPad will be better than any “high-end” Android tablet or PC computer

Ok...now you are trolling....apple's music software atrocious amd why they literally have to pay artist to use it.

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TurdWaterMagee t1_j27legr wrote

You’re talking about apps that less than 1% of iPhone users use. I’m not even going to debate the accuracy of you’re claim.

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abaddon_the_echo t1_j27xkm5 wrote

You call Apple users stupid but you haven’t said a single intelligent thing. Pretty clear that you’re just regurgitating bs you heard from another idiot.

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AadamAtomic t1_j27yb70 wrote

>You call Apple users stupid but you haven’t said a single intelligent thing.

Hey dude. I'm not the one who purchased a $1000 phone that only cost $100 to make and has ridiculously expensive proprietary Hardware that is cheaper than sand to manufacture, plus spending 30% more on everything you ever purchase on the appstore.

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abaddon_the_echo t1_j282iub wrote

You really think flagship android phones are any better? The only difference is my phone still functions after 3 years lol.

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mr_bots t1_j27667u wrote

Samsung doesn’t even make Apple’s chips, TSMC does.

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AadamAtomic t1_j27ffp6 wrote

Yeah, for like 3 years and then went groveling back to Samsung for help.

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mr_bots t1_j27g5mq wrote

Samsung supplies memory, TSMC supplies the SOCs

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AadamAtomic t1_j27g8ka wrote

Samsung supplies the CPU A16 chips and ram.

All operations are being moved out of Taiwan and Chinese control.

Iphones are just tictok machines anyway.

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Plisq-5 t1_j28j12l wrote

Congratulations! 🎊

You win the dumbest comment of the day award. Would you like to say anything to the audience?

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