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jiminy_cricks t1_j1y5kki wrote

I love the idea but I can only imagine how fragile it will be

Edit: I learned the are already moving parts in today's cameras so I'm just dumb

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Bearloom t1_j1y74i4 wrote

They're only making the camera lense, not the phone itself.

There's still a risk of it breaking because of cut corners - it is LG after all - but there's a much lower risk of having to deal with their call center in Phuket.

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Crruell t1_j1yo89o wrote

It is LG after all? Care to elaborate? I could understand if we're talking about Samsung, but LG? Always had superb quality from them..

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c0mplexx t1_j1yukkj wrote

For the most part it's people still butthurt from the bootloop fiasco

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aldeayeah t1_j1yxrrg wrote

I used to love LG flagships until I had to literally bake my motherboard to recover my data in two consecutive generations (G3/G4)

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Checksout__ t1_j1z4rze wrote

Haha I also remember having to bake my motherboard, family thought I was crazy putting my phone's insides into the oven. Surprised it worked.
 
I really miss the phone. Fingerprint placement on the back was nice

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Crruell t1_j1yw1tw wrote

Oh ok, but the burning batteries of Samsung, the poor quality and the software that makes your phone go dead after 3 years doesn't matter to anyone.. especially if you're talking TVs, Samsung is trash.. the world really is twisted

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purekillforce1 t1_j1yx2zs wrote

Samsung TVs I've never had an issue with. They tend to last me pretty well (never replaced one due to a fault), but I wouldn't get a Samsung phone. Same way I'll buy an HP printer, but not an HP laptop.

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Crruell t1_j1yxloa wrote

I had two Samsung's. They had REALLY big latency (I pressed something on the remote and it literally took 3-5 seconds). This was especially annoying in menus. And overall just bad (e.g. ads in menus?!) Then I got a LG OLED and it runs like on the first day. He is 5 years old now. Yeah definitely, HP is a printer company, that's like buying a apple car. Good way of thinking!

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purekillforce1 t1_j1yz3sm wrote

That's a fair point about the menus. Mine aren't annoying slow, but they definitely aren't instant, either, unless it's volume etc. I also forgot about the ads, as I block those at the router, but yeah, that's a bit shitty, too. I'm certainly not a brand loyalist. I'll just get the best in my budget at the time. Last couple times that's been Samsung.

Makes sense to judge a brand on their individual product lines, rather than the entire brand, as they will often do some products better than others.

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Crruell t1_j1yzdzo wrote

Oh does PiHole/DNS blocking work??? I thought you would get big blank boxes instead. Being loyal to one brand just doesn't make any sense at all. LGs good at Oleds, so I got one from them. PC wise I have a lot of ASUS, my phone is OnePlus after I had a bad experience with the Samsung S3 and S5.. I couldn't be happier, since I ditched Samsung completely.

Yes definitely. Samsung makes everything, they can't be good at everything, no one is.

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Not_Under_Command t1_j1zfrav wrote

What if we can integrate ram on samsung TVs, is ther a way? Its really annoyingly slow.

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Skaterdude5000 t1_j20xux7 wrote

There were other things. Their g7's often had hotspots on the bottom of the screen. Many phones would have their charging ports die. Many of their more creative phones were also either budget, underpowered, or under engineered.

I am writing this reply from a v60 and I dont see any reasonable replacements other than mild side-grades. But boy oh boy do they have issues. Moreover, if you can even convince them that they should fix your phone, they only offer the repair it which takes times, never a replacement/refurb.

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Bearloom t1_j1z63hx wrote

As someone who had to go through their runaround twice - once for the boot loop issue and once for their Nexus digitizer that was under enough tension it sometimes broke in people's pockets - consider yourself one of the lucky ones.

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Crruell t1_j1z6qvz wrote

Sounds like 10 year old problems to me. I had more problems with Samsung phones and TVs.

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jiminy_cricks t1_j1y7dwl wrote

Right but in any phone that small of a manual moving part I feel is going to be prone to damage very easily.

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djshadesuk t1_j1yhk19 wrote

How do you think optical image stabilisation works?

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mcnabb100 t1_j1ymwps wrote

And also focusing. We already have phones with lens elements moving around on multiple axes.

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jiminy_cricks t1_j1z5vhj wrote

I had no idea. My idiot self thought it was all software in phones. Time to do some reading!

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jiminy_cricks t1_j1z5slc wrote

Well color me stupid because I thought that was only through software in phones. Time to do some learning!

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thebrainypole t1_j1zyd2q wrote

That's electronic image stabilization, often used in conjunction with optical stabilization.

Some phones can actively move the OIS hardware to get a desired effect, like shifting the sensor to get more detail out of image stacking

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blaz1120 t1_j1ycovf wrote

And you assume the because?

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AntalRyder t1_j1yk1lr wrote

Because replacing a fixed component with a moving one introduces additional failure points.

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Alphalcon t1_j1ycsgs wrote

That kinda reminds me of the initial suspicions about pop up front facing cameras. Like, did we ever get an answer to whether they were durable enough?

It seems like they fell out of favour due to things like waterproofing, thickness and weight issues, but I can't seem to find much about how they fared in that department other than early predictions.

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DonQuiBrained t1_j1yfql1 wrote

I've been using a Mi 9t with the popup camera since August 2019, still works fine. Waterproofing would be nice but I don't have any issues with the thickness or weight. I love the lack of notch/pinhole on the screen.

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DonUdo t1_j1ykuxh wrote

My OP7TP from 2019 is also still working with its periscope camera and not having a notch or punch hole is to this date one of my most important factors when looking at new phones.

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Alphalcon t1_j1yvulb wrote

I can definitely see the appeal if pop-up cameras made good on their promises of durability. Probably deserved a better chance than we gave them.

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time_to_reset t1_j1yijxr wrote

I've had one of those optical periscope zoom lenses in my phone for the last 3 years (Oppo Reno 10x Zoom) which has moving parts as well and it's been 100% reliable despite carrying it with me on my motorcycle and in general being quite careless with it.

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Majezan t1_j1ytpud wrote

You have OIS and autofocus in smartphones. Both being movable parts

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