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smp208 t1_j18kgdz wrote

How is that possible? Even if they buy at MSRP I’d assume that at worst they could sell at MSRP and more or less break even. Not enough people willing to buy?

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ChronWeasely t1_j18pava wrote

Yeah. It's literally in-stock at many places. Buy it from them with a warrantee, fast shipping, etc. Instead of a scalper if you want to put your $$$ on the bad value proposition that is the 4080

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dimitriye98 t1_j19imar wrote

Scalpers are often leveraged. They'll use credit cards and other lines of credit to provide more operating capital. If they sit on it, those lines of credit remain heavily loaded, and A) they have to pay interest B) they have less capital to scalp other things. It's makes more sense for them to liquidate a losing investment than to keep losing money on it

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NaN-Gram t1_j194f65 wrote

Supply is in better conditions than you think. In any case, 30 series cards are both in stock AND getting marked down. For what it’s worth, people who’ve been waiting this long are likely to hold out for a while longer.

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speedypotatoo t1_j19hdzl wrote

No refund policies and no body going to buy a card without warranty

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IAm-The-Lawn t1_j19od9h wrote

Combination of a lot of factors. There was pent up demand for the 30 series over the course of the past two years, and so lots of folks bought the 30s cards when the prices finally came down and supply improved. That is having an adverse impact on demand for the 40 series.

Additionally, the 40 series cards are significantly more expensive than the previous generation, so scalpers have a much smaller profit margin. Contrary to some beliefs, there is a maximum amount of money that 85% of individual consumers will spend on each card in the 40 series (we just don’t know what that amount is).

Finally, supply is pretty decent for the 40 series. Some retailers learned from the 30 series debacles with bots and scalping, so buying up all existing stock is not an option for scalpers. At best, they can only buy the majority of stock if they are so inclined.

Also worth noting that in some respects, supply chain logistics are recovering as well.

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fatalrip t1_j1aelmh wrote

I sell stuff on eBay. You lose roughly 17% to fees etc.

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